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SPEAKER 1 0:11

Hello, hello, hello and welcome back to the access point, everybody, you are back for after our Season One, we had a nice successful season when we took some time off for the holidays. And now we’re back in front of you. Back. So we want to thank you all for joining us. I see some people starting to hop in, if you can take a moment as you hop in, introduce yourself in the chat, let us know where you’re at what school you’re coming from, what state you’re in, tell us a little bit. We’d love to be as interactive with you as possible. So, you know, we got a couple of things we’re gonna want to talk about today. But we’re gonna go we’re gonna first jump in with some intros. If you have any questions as we go throughout, make sure to put them down in the Ask a Question section, you can also put them in the chat, and we’ll pull them over if necessary. But real quick as we, as we sort of kick off the season two, there may be a few people who don’t really know a lot about this. So I want to make sure we introduce you to this platform a little bit. And so the access point is brought to you by living corporate and living corporate is a writing and podcasting platform dedicated to exploring and celebrating underrepresented identities in corporate America. We are early to mid-career consultants who came together based on our shared desire to have frank conversations about the way we exist, survive and succeed in corporate spaces. As a collective, we represent a broad spectrum of beliefs, cultures and identities. And we know that our differences are shaped our perspectives and experiences in corporate America. So we want to engage with our other voices that often go on heard and have conversations out loud, live in corporate is for anyone who wants to have these conversations with us and push the needle the needle forward on how we can create and sustain spaces that reflect true inclusiveness. So that’s a little bit about living corporate itself. Now. Now, do you want to tell them a little bit about the access point, Mike? Yeah, absolutely.



SPEAKER 2 2:13

So, you know, some of the language is the same, right? The access point is part of the living corporate network. It’s our weekly web show where we like we bring real talk to prepare you for the job market. And for the workforce. The content is focused on preparing Black and Brown students for the future of work. But this is definitely for everybody. You know, so each week, we normally have the super dope guests on the show, where we have a ton of fun talking to these people. And this week is a little different. This week is our kick-off episode. So we don’t have a guest. We have me Mike interested.



SPEAKER 1 2:51

Yes, it’s just at this point in time, but as you continue to join us throughout the season, you’re going to see quite a few amazing guests. Now, as I said before, if you could take a moment, just introduce yourself, I see a couple people lurking up in here, I want to know who you are, I want you to I want you to talk to us. So if you can just take a moment, let us know in the chat. That’d be really, really great. But yeah, so for those of you who hadn’t joined us for Season One, we had quite a few shows we had, we had 11 shows in total, including our kick-off episode with the four hosts. Right, so for those of you who aren’t aware, we have four hosts, its Mike, myself, Tiffany and Brandon. And we covered a ton of topics last season some really, really good topics. So real quick, I want to see Mike’s view, what do you think your favourite topic was that we covered?



SPEAKER 2 3:54

I think it would have i think i think that my mind gravitates towards one of my favourite discussions that we had. And it was actually you and I were hosting this episode. So it’s super fun. It was with Dr. B.



SPEAKER 1 4:13

Yeah. Strategic self-advocacy.



SPEAKER 2 4:17

That’s right, self-advocacy. And it was just like, I felt like that conversation felt like, it felt like the barbershop like you felt, you know, like it was, it was so many gems, so many nuggets in that one. So I loved that self-advocacy. And that’s like, a lot of ways it was a story in my student experience. So I like that one a lot.



SPEAKER 1 4:36

That was one of my favourites ones too, that the strategic self-advocacy, and then also salary negotiation because who doesn’t like to learn how to secure the bag, right? We’re all here for a reason. And it’s to get these coins. So, you know, I thought those are really, really two amazing topics. So for those of you who didn’t join, here’s some of the things that we covered, right, we covered applying for jobs. We talked about some of the things common pitfalls that you might encounter when you’re looking for jobs. We talked about some key things that you can do. And we had kearson Greg’s on the show who is the trap recruiter and she was dropping gems. We had your personal brand matters, right. And that Mike, Brandon hosted that one. Talking a little bit about personal branding with Mark. Right, right. Yeah. So



SPEAKER 2 5:25

Set university graduate mark, right.



SPEAKER 1 5:28

Yes, yes. And then interviewing effectively, because we know that you know, things like your resume, they help you get the interview, but the interviews would get you the job, right like that. That’s what really, really solidifies it here. You and I got to host that one. With Julia rock.



SPEAKER 2 5:45

Yes. Shout out to Julie rock,



SPEAKER 1 5:48

Rock career, she used to be out here getting the people together, okay. And then we had salary negotiation. With Lucretius Davis, we had some sponsor, we had finding sponsors, mentors and allies with Liz swigart. And that was a really, really good one to Brandon nine was hosted that one, I think that’s a really, really important one. And the reason we’re bringing up all these topics, because I want you to know what we discussed, because you might want to go back and watch them. They’re all hosted here. They’re recorded. And I’m telling you, there’s tons of information that you can get from these sessions going back and rewatching them. We also talked about setting effective personal boundaries, excuse me professional boundaries, Tiffany and Brandon took that one. Yeah, man, you got to set those professional boundaries. Like, people, people, people will travel all over your corners, right, you know, if you don’t set some boundaries around things that we talked about being coachable. We talked about protecting your mental health. And both of our favourite’s strategic self-advocacy is what rolls out the season with. So if you have some time, throughout this week, throughout the month, over the next couple of months, take some time to go back and revisit those episodes or visit them for the first time. So that way, you can make sure you really, really got all of the gems that were dropped inside of there. And don’t hesitate to reach out to any of the hosts reach out to any of the guests. And sort of you know, maybe continue that conversation. Right. Hey, I was watching your access point presentation. And I just had a few other questions. I know I personally would, would appreciate that. I’m pretty sure any of our guests would love to do that too. Right. So yeah, that’s a little bit about what we talked about previously. Now, Mike, what’s the other thing is what are we gonna talk about today? What topic do we have on the on the docket?



SPEAKER 2 7:41

We have a topic that when i when i first read it, I was like, Huh, like, I don’t think I have too much to say about that. But then I realized I have a lot to say, but we have a topic today is professional curiosity. Professional curiosity, and what that means is, so at first I was like, like, who am I curious about a person a role, a career pathway? And then I realized, oh, the answer is yes. The answer is all of them. Yeah, all of it together, right. And like, like one of the one of the best ways to advance your career, but also to make impact in that first 90 days that you get hired, or in that first year, first couple of years is to remain curious, right. As an educator, you know, actually, as a matter of fact, during season one, I made a job transition. I went from working in a school to working with a large, large non-profit called Teach for America. And so, you know, a lot of these things, I use a lot, a lot of what we talked about at the access point, to make that transition very smoothly. And, you know, very seamlessly, and this was one of them professional curiosity, right. Like, this is how I got that, that job. I had a meeting with somebody over I mean, maybe six to eight months ago. And I said, Look, I just want to know about what this is this thing called the reinvention lab, like what are you? What do y’all do? What are you all about? And she told me, and then I told her what I was up to. And we talked and talked to talk then six months later, I have a job that I love. So I really means a lot to me.



SPEAKER 1 9:24

Yeah, absolutely. Right. And so when I think of curiosity, right, when it comes to your career, it to me it means that you want to learn, yeah, right, you’re ready to adapt to your changing environment. That you’re you understand that you have a skill set, but you’re not afraid to admit that you’re willing to build on top of that, or there’s some other things that you could be adding inside of there. Right. You’re when you’re curious you and you sort of invest energy and improve actively improving yourself, right, that that’s really what that’s about and I think that that is the key to a successful career overall. And it starts just from the very get go, which I think the very first point of access when it comes to careers is network, right? Yes, the very first point of access when it comes to careers. And when we’re networking, it’s important for us to stay curious about the people that we’re talking to what they do, how they do it, how they even got to where they are, what pathways they took, right? Because that curiosity is going to give us so much insight into the field, which can save us a ton of heartache on the back end, right? Because we, we sit here, like, I want to be a data analyst. And then you go talk to somebody who’s a data analyst. He’s like, I don’t want to be a data analyst. Right? And so I think it’s really it’s that curiosity starts there. But that curiosity also allows people to feel like you’re being genuine, when you’re having interactions with them, right, that you want to know about them, which is sort of the precipice of building a successful relationship, whether that just be someone who is a good connection, maybe that’s someone who’s a mentor, someone who becomes a sponsor, whatever the case may be, but that curiosity is going to be the thing that really pushes you over the edge. And then and then that just continues to progress beyond that, right? As you get into a job being curious about more, more than just currently your job? How does that play into the bigger picture of the organization? How am I making a difference here? How can things change? Are there things that need to be more efficient, right? This curiosity just continues and continue or should continue throughout your career, and I believe that’s really going to be the thing that helps you continue to progress and grow in your right. But it’s, it does take a little bit of self-awareness. And it also takes, you know, a little tempering of your ego. To be curious, right? You can’t be a no at all you that’s just simply put, you have to you have to realize that there are people who are better than you at things, and you can learn from those people and become better. I think I think that is a really hard thing for a lot of us to do in these spaces.



SPEAKER 2 12:15

Yeah. And, you know, I also think it takes like, it just takes time, like it takes it takes extra time that I think to do this well to do professional curiosity. Well, sometimes, I’m just gonna be honest with you, sometimes I take meetings that are a waste of time. And, and but the reason why I do it is because I really never know where this is going to go. Sometimes that leads to a paid speaking engagement. And sometimes somebody’s like, I want to pick your brain. And I’m like, ah, I mean, there’s all sorts of creative ways that they get that meeting, they don’t come out and say it at the beginning. But I mean, you really never know some of the most exciting collaborations and projects I’m working on, have just come out of the blue, trying, you’re trying to learn about somebody and learn about what they do. So but I ask you this, just because what I found in my life, is that curiosity for the sake of curiosity, don’t mean nothing. Your professional curiosity should have a strategy. So how do you add some strategy to your professional curiosity? What do you think about that?



SPEAKER 1 13:18

Yeah. So I think it goes back to some of the things that I was talking about earlier, right? If you’re in the spot where you feel like you need a mentor, the way you’re really going to find a mentor is to start to be curious about other people and what they do, what how they succeeded, what steps they’ve taken, what pathways they’ve already sort of forged inside of this, right? Maybe if you’re looking for that next promotion inside of your job, being strategic with your curiosity there and trying to figure out how you can gain additional business. Right? Being curious on the industry pushes you to learn more, being curious on your business pushes you to learn more. And as you learn more about the business and how it operates, you have a better fundamental understanding that prepares you for leadership roles inside of that organization. It prepares you to provide solutions to potential problems that they may not see yet, right, that curiosity can give you a ton of insight. And I think that’s really what you had. That’s really where what I think the strategy is, is knowing that the Curiosity is to gain insight and then you are to act on that insight. Whether that whether that networking gives you insight now you’re tailoring your resume, your cover letter, you’re changing up your interview, your interview, question answers and all those type of things. Now, that’s how your curiosity becomes strategic, right, whether you’re trying to figure out that promotion, your curiosity about the business and how you play into that bigger picture. That is more strategic. Right. Yeah. And I think that is that is sort of where I see it. The other part and I see this all the time, as a career coach, I think for professional curiosity. This is strategic in just advancing your career outside of just your organization, right. And what I mean by that is all too often, we get very caught up. And this is the correct pathway for me to get to point B, right? I’m at point A, and I need to get to point B, this means I’m from here, I need to go to the supervisor, then I need to go to the manager role that I need to go through the director role. Right? And oftentimes, our career pathways don’t play out that way. Right? I mean, that curiosity can give us a good understanding of that, maybe you’re able to jump some levels, maybe that curiosity can take you and say, Okay, if you leave your company now, and go to another company, and now two years later, you come back to this company, now you’re making 20%, more than you were before, right, that professional curiosity can really drive you further. But I also see it in one other way, when it comes to that is, people get really pigeonholed when it comes to, you know, hey, I have to just do this, I’ve been doing data science for so long, I have to be just strictly a data scientist, when in reality, you could you could venture into different areas of the business, even with your data science background, and provide different insight and gain different experiences that then prepare you for different roles inside of the organization. But oftentimes, we feel like we are so stuck, where we need where we are currently, that we sort of stifle our own curiosity about what’s out there to advance our career.



SPEAKER 2 16:31

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that’s huge. That’s huge. That’s the most dangerous place I think it can be in your career is if you think there is nothing else out there for you. And, you know, I know, with, I mean, that same example, like with teachers, they say to me all the time, so I just started this personal branding community for educators specifically, because I’m like, the education community does not know how to leverage a personal brand. And really, what it is, is that there is a lack of professional curiosity to figure out like, what else is available to me inside of this field, but also outside of this field? Like I was talking to somebody in my, in my Brandon community? And I said, did you know that you can go work at AT&T as a corporate trainer? And, and make almost double what your salary is, like? What? Like, you know, how many other companies need corporate trainers, and that’s your primary skills that I mean, and all it takes is for you to go talk to somebody for you to send an email, send a LinkedIn invite, and go figure that out. I mean, really like, my, my basketball coach in high school used to say you’re a Google search away from your next career move. Right? All you got to do is be just be curious enough to Google search a name or position or how to get there. And you can I mean, you can leave your industry, you can leave his boot camps, all kinds of stuff, leave your industry.



SPEAKER 1 17:51

Yeah, 100%. And I love that I love that teacher idea. I work with educators all the time, and they feel like they are just stuck in the realm of education. And oftentimes, many people inside a corporate space will be like, hey, what can educators do inside of here? And I’m like, they can do a ton of stuff, you know, the entire basis of all of our skill sets come from education, right? Yeah. So these are the very people who are teaching these things. Right. Um, so I think it’s very interesting. If you if you’re not curious, and what’s next for you what’s out there for you. You get very stifled, you get pigeonholed inside of that career. And then work is less fun, right? Intellectual or professional curiosity helps you to be more interested in the world around you in the work that you’re doing. That’s just simply put, right? Yeah, it allows you to not necessarily accept things the way they are without having the desire to know like how they came to be, or you know, how you can make things better. And so as you continue to dig beneath the surface, things actually become fun having a curiosity, right, it takes work to a different level for you can make it more exciting and more enjoyable. And I think oftentimes, what I find with a lot of people who are really downtrodden about their current work experience, they lost that spark of curiosity. And what it did is it’s become monotonous, it’s the same day today, they don’t understand how they play into the bigger picture. They’re not identifying ways to become more efficient, more effective for the or how to make the organization more effective, efficient or effective. Right. So it’s, I think that intellectual curiosity just does so or I say intellectual, but I consider them all the same. Yeah, yeah. In general, um, it makes you It makes work that much more fun now. Yeah. The other thing when it comes to this, and this is something I actually talked about in my living corporate tips recently was that you know, some of the skill sets that recruiters and hiring managers are looking for in employees in 2021 You know, really, there’s a lot of stuff about resiliency. But the other thing was curiosity, right? They, we’ve basically been in a position where our work environments have been shaken up, probably for a very long time. I don’t know, ever, we’ll go back to what we knew before. Fully, right. And so they’re looking for people who are able to adjust the new needs and circumstances to get the job done, who are curious enough to go out there and figure out solutions to some of the issues we’re now facing in this, this new work environment that we have. And so curiosity can be something that can literally set you up to be a better candidate for a position and also set you up to become sort of a thought leader inside of your company, which can be huge for your career, it can be, you know,



SPEAKER 2 20:51

It’s the differentiator. I mean, like, what, what I’ll tell you is what I’m experiencing now, is that, right? Like, my job is to dream. And it kind of always is, but it is it is, for, like professional curiosity, intellectual curiosity is how I make impact in my current career. And so I can tell you like, that is so key. So if you’re watching this, like, absolutely, like, I’ll just tell you, I, I love sneakers, I’m a sneaker head, I, I have a, I have some that just came in, by my desk, I love sneakers. I also love education. I said to somebody a year ago, I was like, I’m gonna figure out some way to collaborate with one of my favourite brands. I don’t know what it looks like, but I’m gonna do it. I get in this job. And one of the first things I do is, I think, on a random day, so I literally I just tweeted at a brand called 99 products. And I was like, yo, like, hey, like, let’s work together. And he responded. And this guy is the guy for context. He’s the dude that created easy, the easy brand. So now he now has his own brand. Now we’re matching up organizations from our network education organization, to do a sleeker design contest, this house through Teach for America and this brand, right? It says like, curiosity will take you a long way. But for me, what that’s doing is building, it’s building a reputation, that in my first 30 to 60 days of this job. My Curiosity has built us a very strong relationship with somebody who didn’t have before. So like, once you’re in a job, professional curiosity will is going to serve you very, very well.



SPEAKER 1 22:42

Yeah, yeah. 100%. So when we talk about professional curiosity, right, I think I also want to attach some tangibles around this right, yeah, what that what that curiosity looks like how you can how you can remain curious inside of your career. Right? So I think one of the things is, this is just one of them. But there’s many, many things you can be doing is first, you know, staying current in the news and trends inside of your industry in your company, right? A lot of times, we’ll have those CEO reports, we’ll have the all hands on meetings, right? We’re just there. Because we need to attend, we’re just click clacking on our keyboard, not really paying attention, not knowing what’s going on, right. But if we pay attention a little bit more inside of those things, we can gain some really pertinent information, right? It allows us to really understand maybe some of the pitfalls that the company is going through some of the ways that we might actually be able to help and in those situations, right. But it number one, it requires you to be curious about that. You know, the other thing is, be curious about what skills you can continue to develop and where you can exercise those skills. Right? I was just talking, I had a coach, a coaching call with a client. And we were talking about how he could sort of achieve some of these goals that he had. And I explained to him a concept that I do with some of my career coaching clients, he’s like, Oh, my God, we do a very similar concept over here in this this thing, and he said, I never thought to even apply that to my goal structure, right? He’s like, I, it never even crossed my mind. Right? And so just figuring out how you’re able to develop those skills, but how that also translates across the board. And so give you an example design thinking design thinking though, it started in, in software development, and now it’s moved into the majority of fields that are out there, right? Design thinking in education, career design, thinking and career work now, but that was something that started with a very specific niche, right, that that was a skill set that started in a very specific place. So figuring out ways that you can not only develop your skills, but how that translates across the board. And then I think the other major thing for me when it comes to being curious is just sort of discovering the new ways you’re able to challenge yourself inside your role, right? How can you push yourself think of different ways that you can discover new strengths and even weaknesses, because the thing about it is, curiosity isn’t all about positive things. Curiosity is also figuring out the negative side of things. And if you can figure out your weaknesses, number one, you’re aware of them, which means that most people cannot use them against you. Number two, you can figure out how to strengthen them, and then utilize them and leverage them to your benefit. Right. Um, so I think it you know, that curiosity allows us to really have a better understanding of ourselves, our work ethic, our character, and, and how we can sort of, you know, change and mold into the person that we want to be whatever that looks like for anybody. But I think those are some, just some real actionable sort of tangible things that you can just sort of start doing off the bat that can sort of help in that in that professional curiosity realm. Are there any things you can pick up, Mike?



SPEAKER 2 26:06

Yeah, I think I love the point about challenging yourself. You know, I was in a particular job that I did not, I was not in joy, stop enjoying this job. And then my wife said to me one day, she was like, just look for a new problem to solve every day. And I was like, okay, so yeah, like, I think, I think that would be a tangible way to sort of challenge yourself, you say, like, how do you do that, I look for something that you’re uniquely positioned to solve each day, and play the game within the game like a puzzle. Right? The other thing I would say is, is this, I say the same thing about social media and personal branding. When you feel like I don’t have anything to say on social media, do the thing that’s arguably more beneficial, which is just engage with people. And I think that that works for in person in your workplace too. Like, if you’re like, if you’re not feeling passionate, or if you’re, if you find yourself, you’re like, Oh, look, I really want to I want to get a spark or some inspiration, literally, like, think about just hitting somebody up who’s on your team, and saying, Hey, can we get 1520 minutes on zoom. So I can just learn more about you and where you come from. And that that will number one go a long way towards creating a cohesiveness on your team, you’ll learn something about somebody you work with, but it may, it may literally sparked an idea for a project or how you can work on something together. You know, this happened with me two weeks ago, I, you know, reached out and said, hey, like, Look, let’s get to know each other. And then I realized, oh, like this person is a person I need because I’m an idea oriented person, and she has an execute or like, doesn’t matter what’s going on, she’s gonna get it done. So I need to be sitting up next to her all the time. Right? I learned that from just getting to know who she was and where she came from. And the last thing I’ll say is just understand that, that curiosity in itself is a strategy, like Tristan said that earlier, right? Like, the Curiosity is the strategy, the more that you can do that and display results from that, the more favourably you’ll be viewed in your workplace.



SPEAKER 1 28:10

Yeah, 100%. You know, being curious in the workplace, sets you up for so much if you if you just take the time to be curious about what you do, and then take time to be curious about what your boss does. You’re now you’re sort of probing in your one on one, Hey, what’s going on? How are things going? You guys having any issues, right? And now you understand what’s going on in your boss’s mind, oftentimes, we don’t understand. We see the actions that our boss takes, but we don’t necessarily understand why they took it doesn’t necessarily always make sense to us. Right. But now you have a better understanding of why they took that now you have better understanding of their issues, their problems, now you can position yourself to be someone to help solve those issues. Right. But that all stems from being curious and what they do, what roadblocks they’re hitting how they achieve what they’re achieving, right? Because then that gives you a better understanding of once again, how you play into everything else inside of the company. I don’t think we I don’t think we focus enough on that we think we’re there simply because I’m here to do this job, which you are, that’s what they pay you to be here for. I’m not gonna lie. But most of us, especially people who are going to be here in this type of form, we don’t want to strictly stay in that job. And so if we’re looking for ways to advance inside of the company, we need to make sure we get curious not just about what, you know, ahead of us on the ladder. But we also need to get curious about what’s beside us in the organization horizontally, right? What are people who are at my same level in this organization doing how do their jobs play up into this? Right? How can I make their jobs easier? What roadblocks are they hitting, and that doesn’t mean that you have to solve these issues right. Sometimes having Understanding of those issues helps you navigate a business better. It’s just what it is. So, you know, that curiosity? I there’s so many different ways I think it’s, it’s we could literally be on here for hours talking about that can help you. But you know, I really love to see I currently we don’t have any questions nobody really wants to engage with us in the chat my man. See some people up in here but if you’d like to please feel free to let us know who you are where you’re from, if you have any questions on professional curiosity in the workplace and your career, make sure to drop those in the chat or drop them in the q&a section, because I’d really love to touch on some of the things you all might be thinking about. And maybe even tell me Hey, how’s curiosity helped you so far in your career? You know, do you have any examples of that? Because, you know, I can continue to pull these things, but I think sometimes it’s best to hear from other people to see what what’s going on there. But yeah, you know, with the curiosity, it’s, it’s, it’s literally as minute as gaining information so you can navigate better all the way to finding breakthroughs and discoveries inside of the organization. Like, that’s literally, it really runs the gamut across the board on all of these things. And I think that that is why it’s so important for us to have that. Not just not just for the companies or organizations we work for, but for ourselves to figure out how we can really sort of, you know, repackage ourselves, repackage our skill sets, repackage our experiences, and do something a little bit new with them. Right. Um, and that’s one of the things my professional curiosity is what led me to being a career coach. Daddy being a career coach, counselling, I didn’t do any of that stuff, right? It was, it was okay. I was a hiring manager for a biotech company. I was constantly interviewing people reviewing resumes, I noticed, okay, a lot of candidates of color are having issues conveying their value inside of their documents. And during interviews, I said, Oh, that’s really interesting. So I thought I was noticing this thing, right. Next thing I know, I have friends and family who are like, oh, you help you, you review resumes? Can you review my resume? Can you help me get a job? So I’m doing these things, and I’m like, these people are actually getting these jobs that they want. So you’re onto something? I’m like, Okay, well, let’s just see, I’m gonna start, I’m gonna start my I’m gonna start a business and just help some people out, right? Thinking I might have one to two clients a month. Next thing I know, in the first year, I had helped over 125 people. And literally, it’s just my curiosity around this issue that I notice a black and brown people having an issue conveying their value, right. And when I when I was a little bit more curious about it, I dug a little bit deeper, you know, I realized, okay, there’s this space. There’s people were doing career coaching and career counselling and all these things. And I was like, Okay, what is all this about? Let me learn a little bit more about this. Next thing, you know, I started a business three years later. Next thing, you know, I’m literally full time in my business. That was just out of a curiosity of up of an observation that I made while I was inside of my corporate job.



SPEAKER 2 33:31

Yeah, that’s us.



SPEAKER 1 33:34

Right. And it wasn’t like a traditional pathway. It wasn’t thumping, you know, people literally go to school for counselling to go and do career counselling. Right. So it wasn’t like this was a traditional pathway of mine. It was just something I uncovered by being curious about what was going on around me.



SPEAKER 2 33:54

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it’s also like, I love it, because part of what she touched on was like, personal growth as well. Right. Which is like, I think that’s the thing that some people, you know, we discount for our career is personal growth. Like where, yes, where do you where do you want the money to reside? But also, like, Where do you want to be as a person as a professional? You know, I’ll never forget, I there was a guy that I worked with, worked for, he was the Director of the School, and the school was run like a software company. And, you know, he, everybody, people were like, I can never tell if he’s upset. And I was like, you know what, I’m not gonna live like this. I’m just gonna sit down and ask this dude, who are you? Like, where are you from? Tell me your story. How did you get here? The timelines not adding up. You’re not on LinkedIn. You can’t go will you like what’s up? And I used to sit down with him once a week and we would just talk and he would tell me everything. I mean, like, Oh, you know, my dad was a coach for the Cleveland Browns grew up around athletics, right like Just tell me everything and as a result, and not only was I trusted with more responsibility, and had more leeway at work, but I actually learned how to create a new honestly career pathway for myself by talking to him because he would just download, just give me all of this information. And once I figured out that that worked, I just, I just started doing that. I started talking to as many people as I could, and then they would just give me the blueprint. They were like, Look, if you want x, do ABCD. And I was like, Okay, then I’ll try it and it would work. Right. I tried, it wouldn’t work. And I said, Okay, well, that worked for him, but not for me. Right. And so I think personal growth, like don’t overlook the fact that being curious about either your boss or somebody right, like, like, if you have questions for Tristan messaged him on LinkedIn, he like, messaged me on LinkedIn. Right? Like, I give all kinds of time, the folks who have questions and stuff like that. So, um, so yeah, I mean, look, Rashad is coming. He was awesome.



SPEAKER 1 36:01

Look, yeah. Like, literally, when we, when you look at the research, when it comes to curiosity, much of it will tell you that by triggering your curiosity, you actually make fewer decision making yours as well, right actually helps you in your process. It has positive effects, because it leads us to generate alternatives to what we’re currently considering. Right. And generating that alternative is the key to really making great decisions. And so, so there’s so many positive benefits by staying curious, and really understanding like, hey, everything, everything doesn’t have to happen one way, right. There’s tons of different ways for things to happen. And my job is just uncover some of those things. Right, that that is that is literally key to everything you’re trying to do. Right? It that exploration is so essential when it comes to literally anything in your career.



SPEAKER 2 37:04

Yeah, absolutely.



SPEAKER 1 37:08

So, okay, well, I’m not I’m not seeing too many. I’m not seeing too many questions. I feel like I’m repeating myself, but I appreciate you engaging with us, my friend. I see a couple other people that I think I know on the live Hey, y’all. Um, but, Mike, you have any other any other comments around this professional curiosity point?



SPEAKER 2 37:32

Yeah, I think I feel like we’re in the same place. You know, like, we’ve said, what needs to be said, I really think that the only thing I have is actually, it is a question slash challenge for those who are here and listening is like you’ve heard it from us. Now, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do about it? Like, are you going to it? If you’re listening, you’re like, yo, this is the missing link in my career, then then what I would love is for you to do something about it this week. And then tweet and tag me interested in living corporate in it. Like, tell us how you felt. Tell. Tell us how it went. Tell us what you’re hopeful for. That’s my challenge.



SPEAKER 1 38:14

Look, a curiosity challenge. Everybody. Everybody on here and everyone who re watches this?



SPEAKER 2 38:21

Yeah.



SPEAKER 1 38:21

Let us know. What’s one thing you’re going to be curious about truth. Look, I got this monitor. Yes, Monica. Hello, happy New Year. I appreciate that comment, too. Thank you so much, my friend. Yeah, no, for sure. I love that curiosity. That curiosity challenge. I’m gonna take it myself. How am I gonna be curious this week, I you’re gonna see something from me out on social media, and how I’ve let my curiosity roam free. But a couple of things that I want to before we like, you know, sort of get to the line down here. For everyone who may be new to this, um, we are having shows weekly. Right? This is something that happens. This is a weekly thing. So next week, y’all got to sign up for next week’s session. I just have to say, because next week’s session, I’m actually I’m not even allowed to mad that I’m not one of the hosts of this session. My girl Rashad, I can tell you why because the topic is effective documentation how to cover you know what, I’m mad that I’m not one of the host of that because everybody on this knows, I stand a receipt when it comes to career. But yes, the next one is effective documentation, which is happening on January 19. On January 26, we’re gonna have respectability politics, that’s a conversation that Tiffany and I are going to be running. We’re going to talk a little bit about defining respect about Rick Smith respectability politics and how to combat it and or how to wield it at times. Because that is another piece of it, then we’re gonna get into effective project and time management on February 2 with Mike and Brandon. And that’s another one that I’m actually mad, I’m not wanting to look at topics I’m like, you know, we’re gonna have some goal setting and career planning sessions. With Tiffany and me on February 9, we’re talking about leveraging learning for career growth, resilience, and adaptability, which resilience has actually been a very big key word of varying a key word. When it comes to sourcing candidates, recruiters have been mentioning that like crazy because of all the things we’ve gone through. So that’s going to be a really hype session too, because it’s going to, it’s going to be necessary for people to understand what resilience is how we display that, how we utilize that inside of our careers here. See, we got some people chiming in. I love it. Oh, yeah. Executive assistants, I know all about covering Yo, you know what, but don’t get me started, cuz any of my, any of my employees, co-workers, anybody can tell you to go pull out a receipt. Okay. But yeah, so we got some really great topics that are going to be coming up over the next couple of weeks. So what we want you to do, there is a little green Follow button in your upper right corner, we want you to follow living corporate, because what that does is that gives you notifications for when things are going to be popping off, it’ll tell you when you know when sessions are going to start in about an hour. So that way you are able to prep yourself, you’re able to get seated your notepad out, get ready for everything. The other things if you’re not gonna follow us on here, then the thing that I want you to do is I’m putting all of living corporate socials inside of the chat. Every single one of them Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, you got one of them that you love. So I want you to go and I want you to follow live in corporate so you can see when these, these college access points, actually get started going. And the other thing you want to follow with us see what we have to so Mike will connect with you, where where’s the best place for them to get your attention?



SPEAKER 2 42:26

Definitely give me give me on LinkedIn, I’m on LinkedIn all the time. And I feel I feel differently about Twitter today. I’m starting to really like Twitter again. So you can catch me on Twitter. And I’m actually putting my Twitter in the chat.



SPEAKER 1 42:43

About to say, Oh, I was about to pull your LinkedIn if you didn’t have it up there. Okay, perfect. So with me too, you know, you can find me across Instagram, Facebook and Twitter at lay field resume. Or you can connect with me on LinkedIn, which I’m going to put my link inside of here. For LinkedIn. If I’m being quite honest with you. I’m sort of on a social media hiatus. You might have seen my game been on in a minute. I don’t have social media. It’s been a lot for me over the last about month and a half. But I’ll be returning soon I’ll be making my grand entrance for anyone real soon. But yeah, so we really appreciate you joining us for this season kick-off. You know, we wanted to make sure we just sort of gave you a little bit of information on you know, this professional curiosity point talk a little bit about some of the line-up we have I’m excited about these topics, because these are these are essential for new professionals for seasoned professionals, or anybody. Anybody that’s trying to progress their career. So yeah, Mike, you got any words for the people before we sign out?



SPEAKER 2 43:53

Oh, yeah, just look, follow us. Invite your people came over here. The goal is to help as many people as many black and brown folks get in didn’t honestly positions of power in the careers that they love. It’s possible. So yeah, share it



SPEAKER 1 44:08

Share it with all your people. I want I want everybody on here to bring your friend next week. We’re having one of my favourite topics. Let me tell you where I’m gonna be on this. I want to I want to talk about some receipts because I have too many stories about Windows came in handy for me in my career, believe me, yeah. All the way to court situation with another. Um, thank you. Thank you, Monica. Thank you, Sandra. Thank you, rashanna. Thank you everybody who was in here and we will absolutely see you all next week.

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