See It to Be It : Rogue Gynecologist (w/ Dr. Sy Powell)

Amy C. Waninger welcomes Dr. Sy Powell, CEO & founder of Balance to Bloom, to See It to Be It this week. As a Functional Medicine doctor, she works with organizations, groups, and individuals, visiting and consulting with corporations to help them evaluate and create corporate wellness programs that actually work. As always, check the links in the show notes to connect with Dr. Powell!

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Amy (00:49): Hey everybody. This is See It To Be It, the Wednesday podcast from Living Corporate. Living Corporate is a digital media network that centers and amplifies black and brown people at work. My name is Amy C. Waninger and I’m the host of See It To Be It. When I was growing up in rural Southern Indiana, I didn’t know people who went to college or who worked in professional roles. I didn’t know what those jobs looked like or how to break into them. In many cases, I didn’t even know those jobs existed, but this show isn’t about me, it’s about my guests. Every week I bring you career stories from everyday role models in jobs you may not know exist. More importantly, the folks I interview share their perspectives as black and brown professionals in jobs and environments, where they may be the only. My guest today is Dr. Sy Powell, she is known as the rogue gynecologist. She is an obstetrician-gynecologist turned nutrition coach, and she is a blast. But before we get to the interview, we’re going to tap in with Tristan for some career advice.

(04:53): Welcome back to See It To Be It, my guest today is Dr. Sy Powell. And I met Dr. Sy at The National Speakers Association Conference in Las Vegas where it was one million point five degrees. And Dr. Sy is awesome. The first thing that I loved about her was, she Syd, “I’m a rogue gynecologist”, and I was like, this woman and I are going to be friends. So let me tell you a little bit about Dr. Sy. She works with midlife women, especially women of color who are overweight, stressed out and unhealthy. And I’m not going to tell you how many of those categories I fit into. She helps them take back control of their health through diet and lifestyle changes, no toxic drugs, no surgery, no deprivation. She uses a holistic medicine approach within a group coaching setting to help women learn the value of balancing their minds, body, and spirit, and avoid chronic illnesses. And she says she wants her clients to live up to and beyond a hundred years of age, because health is the first wealth. So she’s has a medical background, she’s now a nutritionist, The Rogue Gynecologist’, Dr. Sy, welcome to the show.

Dr. Sy (06:05): Well thank you, I’m delighted to be here.

Amy (06:08): I am so excited to talk to you, you might be my second, maybe third, actual doctor that I’ve had on the show, or medical doctor, excuse me. So I’m just curious, what led you to medicine in the first place?

Dr. Sy (06:22): Well, that was a no brainer for me. I remember when I was growing up, my mother dubbed me, Miss Public Defender’, and I also was the stray cat kind of person to, oh, is your foot broken, let me help you. I was drawn to this healing kind of atmosphere. I love chemistry. I love science. I love investigation. I watched all those shows. I grew up in a small suburban town in Long Island, New York. I was one of the bridge and tunnel people, and education was my food, it fed me. I was able to partake in one of the only high school there, was and I still know the names of every single person in my year in high school. That’s how small it was. But I started out thinking about science. I was in a great educational environment. My guidance counselor called me in and Syd, “What are you doing? Okay, you’re a senior, you’re a junior actually, what are you going to do?” And I Syd, “Well, I’m going to go to college”. She Syd, “I know that. What are you going to study?” I Syd, “You know I like science”. She Syd, “Okay, medicine!” And that’s really how I got into knowing that I should study medicine. And once I picked up on medicine, OB-GYN was like a no brainer. I did a year before I went to college, hanging out with an OB-GYN doctor. And let me tell you, my first stat C-section, I Syd, oh man, I gotta do that one day. And I haven’t looked back. I have been in women’s health care, I have been the dual healer that I have become now. Because I do conventional medicine and I branched out into real, the newer sciences that have come to fore. But I started basically, because I was a healer in my soul and spirit all along.

Amy (08:27): I love it. So you saw a baby being born under the most stressful circumstances possible, and you Syd, sign me up.

Dr. Sy (08:34): Yes.

Amy (08:36): And I know that’s stressful because I had an emergency C-section. And it was not fun for me, or for anybody else in the hospital. So just props to you for saying, “Hey, this is the arena I want to play in”. Now, being an OB-GYN is an incredibly taxing line of work, did that surprise you, as you kind of got deeper into your career?

Dr. Sy (09:04): That’s a very, very good question because the same doctor that I was tagging along with, was an African-American male physician, OB-GYN, and sat me down after I was so excited about watching him do this stat section. And Syd, but what about, you’re a woman, what if you get married, how are you going to be on call? And I Syd, the same way that you are, I just would go. So that was somewhat of a little surprise for me that women were kind of discouraged because it’s too hard. And I just Syd, I don’t agree with you, I can do this. It’s not work if you love it, unless if it’s your calling, if it’s your passion, and it really was. There was no hesitation on my part at all. So yes, there were some people that thought that women couldn’t make it. And when I was coming through, they didn’t have women locker rooms to change in, I had to change with the nurses. For female doctors they didn’t have any space for you. So I was coming into a time where women were just beginning to jump into these fields urology, ob-gyn, orthopedics. Women were doing the things that they thought were henceforth, only male.

Amy (10:41): I know in one of our earlier conversations, when we were talking about your work as an ob-gyn, you were saying how, you do office hours all day, and then you’re on call 24/7. And it’s disruptive to your sleep, it’s disruptive to you personally. How did you cope with that for the number of years that you’ve been in that field?

Dr. Sy (11:04): Initially, by myself as a single woman, it was the easier part because it was just me and my cat, Jamika that I had to take care of. And of course she was very neurotic because I was gone a lot more than I was home. There were a 24 hour calls, you didn’t get the next day off, you’d have to work a full next day, even though anesthesia got the next day off. So medicine was very, very, and what you would hear if you ever complained was, “Well, when I was in medicine, we had…”, it was like one of those kinds of things. So you didn’t complain, you grabbed your food, this is where I learned to eat fast, gobbled down your food because you had to get to grand rounds. And if I bought the food into grand rounds, the chief would say, excuse me, there’s no eating in here, eat on your own time. And I would look and say, this is my own time. But yes, it was quite challenging but the first time that I got to do my first cesarean section, I was a first year resident, you worked 12 hour shifts. And as a first year, you worked the day shift, 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., and when someone needed a C-section, the chief would operate, that was the fourth year, and bring in the first year, or the second year, depending on whether the case was stat or whether it was a straightforward teaching case. The first time I got to scrub, I was called back. They Syd, “We’ve got to do a section”. And my chief Syd, “How many have you done?” And I Syd, “None”. She Syd, g”Give me the second year”, and she pushed me aside. So it wasn’t until maybe another week or so later, that I finally got to do my first C-section. And I’m going to tell you, it was just mind boggling, powerful, I felt like I was saving lives. And I was, but it was just incredible. So I knew that I belonged, and I could do it.

Amy (13:08): Absolutely. So, now help us understand, because you’ve transitioned a little bit from delivering babies, and grabbing your food on the go. And trying to inhale something before you hit rounds, to a real focus on holistic medicine. And nutrition, I know is a big component of your focus now. Can you talk to us a little bit about how that change has come about for you?

Dr. Sy (13:38): Like most physicians, I put 100% in and I got sick. And when I got sick, I went to doctors, I got put on various medications for high blood pressure, for aortic stenosis, for elevated cholesterol, for a rheumatoid auto immune kind of disorder that really took me out, because it made me stiff. It made me not able to use these hands that I need to use. Because one of the joys of OB-GYN is that it is a very hands-on specialty. That’s why I chuckled when telemedicine came up, because I Syd, yes, I can do a little bit of telemedicine for OB-GYN, but GYN is kind of hands on. You gotta show it to me, I have to see it, and touch it. But when I got sick, I tried conventional medicine and it did not work. When I discovered nutrition I went to an Institute of Integrative Nutrition, because a friend of mine, a choir buddy, that I hadn’t seen in a year showed up. And I Syd, “Oh my God, you lost a lot of weight, you look fabulous”. and she shared the Institute of Integrative Nutrition with me. And her new role of using nutrition for her esthetician work, and beauty on the inside to the outside, that kind of stuff. So I did, I went and got my health coaching certification, used everything I learned to lose 50 pounds, stopped every single medication that I was taking, because I changed my diet and my lifestyle. I didn’t smoke anymore, that I gave up, when I started having children. I gave up alcohol, I came off all of my medications. I was gluten-free. I even did a little dairy-free and I don’t have to do that anymore, because I’ve discovered that I am lactose tolerant. But just by getting rid of what was causing an inflammation in my body, and not realizing that’s what it was doing, I got better.

(15:57): And what’s really cute, I think it’s cute, because I would go to work with my patients and say, doc, what you doing? You look younger every time I get here, and see you, what are doing? And that’s when I realized that I had to share what was happening, because my patients, 85% of who crossed my threshold were obese, not just overweight, obese. And when I’m sitting with someone who has a BMI of 35, 40 and on blood pressure medication, has got one knee surgery down, is looking to have her gallbladder taken out. And I’m saying to her, well, when was your last mammogram and when was your last pap smear? And have you had a colonoscopy? That’s not preventive medicine. That’s what I was taught was preventative medicine, it’s early detection. And that’s great, it does save lives. But how about, let’s not get that disease in the first place? How about let’s not have to go on medication in the first place? And guess what? My patients would say, “How come my docs don’t talk to me like you talk to me, doc?” It was just such a revelation for me that I had to share.

Amy (17:16): So why is it then, that doctors don’t talk to us more about nutrition? Why are the referrals to heart specialists, or to radiologists, or cardiologists, or immunologists, and not to nutritionists?

Dr. Sy (17:32): We don’t get educated for nutrition. For my four years of medical school, I had possibly four hours of nutrition education. Nutrition now is one of the new sciences, just like immunobiology, epigenetics. Nutrition has taken off and it needs to be taught, because if you look at Hippocrates way back in 400 BC, he Syd, let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food. He knew back then, we have strayed because of the industrialization of the industry. Big Pharma, anytime you would say, okay lycopene in this tomato is what helps to lower blood pressure. They go and make a lycopene pill, but they forget that there’s a whole synergy of other nutrients, and vitamins, and minerals that are in this tomato that has to interact with other things that we take in. And then there’s our gut microbiome, and that’s a whole new germ theory of medicine has been torpedoed by nutrition. And the new understanding of the microbiome that we are made of 300 trillion cells, bacteria that live in our trillions of cells. 300 trillion bacteria live in and on us, and do work for us. As a matter of fact, the bacteria in our intestines, that’s your immune system, that’s your defense mechanism, that’s what absorbs your nutrients for you. And with altered gut microbiome, that’s where the diseases start to show up, irritable bowel and I’m blanking on some of the others.

Amy (19:28): Like Crohn’s disease and those types of things.

Dr. Sy (19:30): Crohn’s, thank you very much.

Amy (19:32): And stress exacerbates all of this too, right? So when we’re under nourished and we’re overstressed.

Dr. Sy (19:40): We’re asleep deprived.

Amy (19:41): And we’re sleep deprived, I mean all the things that you were as a resident and as a doctor.

Dr. Sy (19:46): Exactly. My husband Syd, “You know what, you keep doing that they’ll let you. And then when you fall down, they’ll just hire somebody else to take your place.”

Amy (19:55): Can you say that one more time?

Dr. Sy (19:57): I Syd, my husband Syd, “You keep doing that, they will let you. And when you stop, when you have that heart attack, when you fall down. They will push you aside and put someone else to replace you.”

Amy (20:11): I just wanted to make sure everybody heard that, because that is such sage advice. And so many people and I think it’s getting a little bit better now, as people are starting to kind of figure out like, oh, I don’t have to be on call 24 hours a day in a normal job. Okay, medical emergency is a different thing, but for most of us, it’s not an emergency if there…. there aren’t marketing emergencies. There aren’t actuarial emergencies, there aren’t accounting emergencies, usually. So lives don’t hang in the balance for most of us. And yet, we push ourselves to the point where our life is the one that’s hanging in the balance.

Dr. Sy (20:54): That’s one of the reasons why I went rogue, to be honest with you. The first reason is overworked, stressed out, burnt out physicians. That’s not a way to practice, it just isn’t. And the second reason I went rogue is because of the disease management concept, the model that we practice from, where big pharma is allowed to prosper and we get to be the pill forever ill crowd. And they make it easy for us, they give you 90-day supply, auto refill, home delivery, but maybe, maybe, maybe I don’t want to take medicine forever. So that’s another reason why I went rogue, I just needed to. There are alternatives, there are natural ways, the body wants to heal if we treat it well, nourish it. The other piece was the epidemics of obesity and chronic diseases and not understanding that treating symptoms doesn’t help. It just prolongs and extends, people are living with checking their glucose’s, sticking themselves with medications. I was on these bio injectable drugs for my rheumatoid autoimmune anemia. Not anemia, autoimmune arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and nothing worked. And as soon as I just stopped eating gluten, I went to a functional medicine doctor, they diagnosed me with gluten sensitivity, not intolerance. I don’t get anaphylaxis. I don’t freak out, but over time, something that is a little irritating when you continue, and you continue, and you continue, to expose yourself to it, your body says, hey, we’ve got an enemy here. And it sets up to attack that immunologically, and you’re attacking yourself. That’s what auto immune means.

(22:54): So one of the major pieces for me was figuring out that. Looking for the root cause, not separating, reducing the body into its little parts, I can only do GYN, I can’t talk to you about your heart. I can’t talk to you about breathing because I’m not a pulmonologist. So when I first started practicing, that was fine with me, because I loved OB-GYN, I loved deliveries and I was very busy enough doing that. I didn’t go into internal medicine, because I didn’t like the chronicity of the diseases that they were treating. So now, face-to-face, I get sick and I have to figure this out. So now what I do, because I know that once you hit midlife, that’s when it all starts to catch up to you. When you’re young and invincible, you can take it, the body can fight back. But over time it gets pooped and it says, whoa, let me show you this.

Amy (23:58): Yes, I’m noticing in my forties, that cold pizza for breakfast just doesn’t do it for me like it used to.

Dr. Sy (24:06): Yeah. There you go.

Amy (24:06): That used to be a fine way to eat, but not so much anymore. So talk to me a little bit, Dr. Sy, about the clients that you have now in your nutritional coaching practice, are they patients, are they clients, what’s the right terminology for the kind of work that you’re doing right now?

Dr. Sy (24:27): They’re my clients right now. And ooh, a good 50% of them were my patients when I was practicing. They followed along because I was doing this while I was practicing. I was trying to be an intrapreneur, I was trying to do this while I was still doing full-time GYN. No OB because I had given that up about 15 years before I started just straight GYN for the past 20. But I would try to do it in my office because I saw the need. And the patients would just say, oh my God, if you have this program, you let me know because I’ll come. So when I stopped practicing, when COVID, the accelerator Syd, close this community hospital. I, set up my shingles and I Syd, here is my nutrition group coaching program for women who want sustainable weight loss without drugs, without surgery. You don’t have to have your stomach stapled. They came.

Amy (25:37): That’s wonderful. And so, aside from the scale telling me that I need you, what other signs should I look for that would tell me, I need to call Dr. Sy?

Dr. Sy (25:50): Well, the scale is a big one because that’s just a visible indicator of metabolic disarray, imbalance, let’s call it that. But other things would be fatigue, easily fatigued. I Syd, people are so malnourished that, how can you exercise? People say, well, you have the whole premise back in the day, and this is what conventional medicine still puts out there. Calories in calories out, eat less, move more and that’s the way to lose weight. Then they beat you up because well, you’re not losing weight, you must not be doing it. You must not be exercising. And you don’t feel like exercising when your energy level is low, you have brain fog, you have easily fatigability, you just don’t feel vibrant. And when you switch and change your diet, I’m going to tell you, I didn’t know how much more, and I’m very high energy. People call me a whirlwind. I am very high energy. I got even more. So now I’m training to run my first 5k.

Amy (27:01): Awesome.

Dr. Sy (27:01): Yeah. But I didn’t have the time, or the space, or the energy to do that before. So if you’re feeling sluggish, if you’ve tried, and tried, and tried to lose weight, initially you do, because you hold back those calories and you turned the calories down, your body will lose weight because there’s no calories there. However, the body’s very smart and there’s a famine protection protocol that we have to save ourselves. So the body says, whoa, wait a minute, not enough calories coming in now let’s slow the metabolic rate down, really low so we can preserve those calories that we have. So if you’ve had issues with trying to lose weight and being able to lose all you’ve lost, but could not keep it off, come talk to me.

Amy (27:51): All right. That is good to know. So I’m going to tell you, I don’t talk about this, but I tried to do one of the apps, one of the weight loss apps recently. And it had me down to like 1100 calories a day, and I was so tired and I was trying so hard to do it, but all I wanted to do, like end of the day when my calories were gone, I was like, I want a bag of barbecue chips, that’s it. All I want to do is sit and eat barbecue chips. And then it says, well, if you’re hungry, you can exercise, and then you can eat more. And I’m like, I’m too tired to get off the couch. It was just wasn’t enough calories, and so, I think a lot of people blame themselve. I did. I was like, oh, I just don’t have the willpower to do this, I have a barbecue chip addiction, which I’m going to be right out there right now, and just say, if there’s a 12 -step program for barbecue chips, I need it. But I think we do, we blame ourselves and we see weight gain as a moral failing in this society. We tie image to goodness, internal goodness, external value. And so I think it’s so important for women, and especially women of color, who are just bombarded with messages about what’s acceptable, and what’s not acceptable, and people policing how we, and how you look all the time. To know that there are ways to be healthy, that are not about how you look, or about following strict rules. It’s about really knowing your body, knowing how your body responds and doing what works for you as a person.

Dr. Sy (29:36): Well Syd, well Syd. There’s no one diet fits that’s all, nothing like that. The issue of weight stigma is a problem. It is so hard. When I first started asking my patients in the office, I wouldn’t say, I had to couch it well. So I would start by saying, so what do you think about your weight? And it was always painful. They would say I’ve tried. So my point about it would be this, you don’t know people’s journeys. You don’t know someone. So when you see someone that’s driving along and you see this lady, and this is huge 300 pounds, don’t say, oh my God! Wonder, feel hurtful, and sad for this person because you don’t know how hard she’s tried. Maybe she’s settling now. Maybe she feels awful. So it’s not something to blame her for. It is, for me, I look at it, how can I help? And guess what? We have been misled. It’s so unfair. We have totally been misled. It is not about counting your calories. So all of those programs that have you count your calories, it’s not about that. It’s a whole different take and when you look at back in the 1960s, when they came out with fat is bad, fat cholesterol causes heart disease, that was not completely studied. And it was wrong and it was put forth because of hubris acclaim, and bullying basically, of this, in the scientific community. And that’s one of my misconceptions that I uncovered about medicine. Oh, it’s not 100% right. And when you’re a young student, and resident, and you believe everything they tell you. You believe everything you read and then you have to get out and practice. And then when you practice and you see what’s happening, oh, it’s a new day.

(31:48): So it’s not about fat, eating cholesterol. To this day my mother-in-law would say, oh no, I can’t have any more shrimp because I have to watch my cholesterol. No, the cholesterol that you eat does not go into your heart, pooky, it just doesn’t do that. It’s the sugar. Sugar is the villain. And it’s not just like fruit sugars, which are natural sugars, it is this refined, processed sugar, cane sugar, added sugars. And let me beat up high fructose corn syrup, please don’t eat that, it’s in everything. Why is it in bread? Why is it in mustard? Why is it in salad dressings? You know why? Because sugar is addictive.

Amy (32:34): That’s right, I would say it tastes good and you want more of it.

Dr. Sy (32:38): Yes, it hits the pleasure center, it brings out dopamine. You say, “Ooh, honey, that tastes like more.” And it is just the worst thing that for us as a country. If you look at when you transport, what I call the SAD (Standard American Diet), you transport that anywhere, you watch, obesity goes up, diabetes goes up, heart disease goes up. So it’s almost like it’s a malady of the affluent country. But it’s just, I watch the soda commercial and they say, “Drink this soda just because you can. You do not want anybody to tell you not to drink that”. they can not advertise for the refined processed food stuff, that’s what I call it. It is not real food. They can’t advertise any nutritional value so they play on your influence, social proof, everybody’s doing it.

Amy (33:34): How it makes you feel.

Dr. Sy (33:36): How it makes you feel. Make more friends, be yourself. Oh! My goodness gracious. That kind of stuff. So, they’re trying to sell, they’re trying to make money. It is not about, what’s good for you. It’s not about what’s good for you. And what’s really harmful is that medicine, we’re beginning to evolve, there’s a movement afoot, but it is very, very slow to change. I had to leave in order to make my indent on my midlife women, because they wouldn’t allow me. They would say, well, we can’t do group coachings, who’s going to pay for that? It was crazy. So I think that we all need to just be conscious eaters, be aware of what is authentic, real whole foods, plant-based eating. You don’t have to be a vegetarian, I’m not saying that. A lot of my patients, especially women of color, saying, “What, we have to be vegetarians or vegans?” No. Everyone, you have to eat for what works for your body as you Syd earlier. And what’s critical for me in terms of weight loss, and health, it’s not just about what you eat, but when you’re eating. What I realize in this country, we are encouraging snacking, they want you to eat five meals a day. That’s based on, there’s two fuels that we burn sugar and fat.

(35:19): Fat makes you feel full, makes food taste delicious, and it is a slow burn. The energy from that will last a long time. It takes a lot of calories to burn fat. Sugar, rapid. It’ll snap up your blood, you have a diabetic who’s tanking blood sugars like 20. They give them a glass of OJ, they are right back. It’s burned really fast and unfortunately, because of that, you have to constantly restock, refuel. That’s why, when you eat a big high carb, high sugar thing, half an hour later, what do you want? More, more, more and when you do that, you are feeding the gut microbiome and you are cultivating sugar eaters. You’re cultivating yeast. You’re cultivating candida. So when you switch and change your diet, you want to switch over to fat burning mode, much better. And the way to do that is through fasting. That’s the major key to my program is to encourage and to educate on fasting. And everybody who does it, comes back to me in four weeks or less and says, “Oh my God, I’ve lost 10 pounds, I feel more energy.”

Amy (36:40): It’s amazing.

Dr. Sy (36:40): It really is. It’s just that simple. And with fasting, you can be a little more loosey goosey with the what you eat. You can, because it is a [inaudible 00:36:50].

Amy (36:53): So my question is, how long do I have to fast before I can eat the whole bag of barbecue chips? That’s not a serious question, but it is on my mind.

Dr. Sy (37:04): The question would be better stated, “How long do I have to fast after I ate that bag?” Okay, to correct the boo-boo of eating the bag. And that depends on how long you fast. So the goal is to, when you fast, you don’t take in any source of nutrients, so you have to burn what you already have. That’s why your body stored it in the first place. Every time you eat, what you don’t use immediately the body says okay we’re storing it. And if you’re eating carbs, it brings out insulin, that is its job. Insulin is a fat storage messenger hormone. So when you don’t eat, when you’re fasting, the body says, well, we still need to breathe and move around so let’s go get that glycogen that we’ve tucked away in the liver. And once that’s gone, it used your sugar to burn, then it goes after immobilizing the fat. So the first time you fast, you may not deplete the glycogen, you have got to do it again. So, it’s an intermittent fasting schedule, or time restricted eating schedule that again, when it becomes the issue. So, We can get away with a lot. You can be a little less stringent on the what, if you’re fasting a lot more. And I will say that. If it gets you to fast, go for it.

Amy (38:32): Excellent. Okay. So what I took away from that is I have a bag of barbecue chips.

Dr. Sy (38:39): Yes, and you can. That is [inaudible 00:38:39]. Once you feel deprived, once deprivation sets in, you’re not going to win. It’s just going to undo everything.

Amy (38:47): Absolutely. Absolutely. So the process that you go through with your client, it’s helping them understand the nutrition, helping them get on their schedule for eating and fasting. I’m assuming that there are some psychological support that goes into this as well, because there’s a whole mental thing. I’ve lost a lot of weight before, and there’s kind of the psychological game that kind of goes on in your mind. Is you’re losing the weight, but then kind of when you get to your target weight, sort of this panic sets in of like, what if it all comes back tomorrow? So how long do people typically work with you in this process?

Dr. Sy (39:27): The program has been morphing and changing, but right now I started as a 12-week program. It is a three months and then six months, but I’ve become a life coach for at least three of my clients, they’re not going anywhere. They stay with me and they’re involved, and we have weekly hour to 90 minutes virtual group coaching sessions, and we’re on it. The mindset is a big piece, in what I call my new thing is, let’s make good health and aging, because I’m also going to throw in longevity in there because that’s critical. Let’s make good health and aging a habit, because once you get into that habitual-newness of doing something it’s automatic behavior, you don’t have to think about it. There’s no choice, taking the choice away. I always do this. You get in the car and you put your seatbelt on, you don’t think about it. You get in the car and this that, you are on autopilot. So we’re going to get your good health habits on autopilot too, that’s what we do.

Amy (00:38): Love it. Love it. Dr. Sy, how can people reach you if they are interested in learning more about what you do?

Dr. Sy (00:43): They can reach me through my website, it’s called There’s a calendar in there. From my calendar, you can schedule an hour talk conversation with me. I love to offer that free. It’s like a free one-on-one coaching for the first time you join. I ask about your journey, and figure out what your challenges have been, what your goals are, what your vision is, where you see yourself? Because all of that’s important. Then I kind of also assess your motivation to get involved, because you gotta want it. You have to want it. And most of the time, unfortunately, we usually have to have something bad happen to us before we realise, oh, I think I need to get started here, and do something about it. So I do have people who already are diabetics, I do have people who already are dealing with hypertension. And I do have some who are not, who, I just want to lose weight before I get there. But most of the time you can just send me a message through my website and I got you. I’ll call you back.

Amy (02:00): Excellent. And I can say that every conversation that you and I have had, I have enjoyed immensely. And I think your coaching clients are just super lucky to have you for hours at a time. So thank you, Dr. Sy so much for being on the show. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, and your insights, and your history with us. We really appreciate

Dr. Sy (02:18): Oh, you’re so welcome. I’m delighted to be able to reach the women that I like to get there, take back control of your health. Yes you can.

Amy (02:30): Wonderful. Thank you.

Dr. Sy (02:31): You’re welcome.

Amy (03:17): Did you love Dr. Sy? I know I do. What I love about her is how passionate she is about the work that she’s doing now. And how unapologetic she is about having learned better, and now she’s doing better. It takes a lot to go through medical school, and it takes a lot to be a doctor, and to treat patients for all those years. But I think it shows a special amount of humility for her to say, you know what, maybe I didn’t have it all right, and there’s more that I could learn. And so, she’s taken a different path, and I think that’s wonderful.

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