Biden/Harris, White Supremacy, and Black History Month (w/ Delegate Lashrecse Aird)

Zach welcomes Delegate Lashrecse Aird back on the show to discuss where she was during the Jan 6 insurrection, her feelings during the presidential inauguration and what the implications are for Black and brown folks for a Biden/Harris administration.

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Zach (00:39): Whats up you all? Zach with Living Corporate. Happy Black History Month. Now look, you know, Living Corporate is a platform that centres and amplifies black and brown folks at work, and we do that by talking to all kinds of people. Im proud of the network we have, that includes elected officials, folks around the Hill on the Hill, and Im excited for the fact that we have delegate Lashrecse on the podcast today. Im thankful for her discussion, her insights and just how she keeps it real all the time. And shes been a fan and a friend of Living Corporate for a while, and Im just thankful for her. Shout out to black women once again. Now look, were going to get into this conversation, which I cannot wait for you all to hear, but I guess I can wait. Because before we get into that, were going to tap in with Tristan. See you in a second.

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Zach (05:03): My goodness gracious. We got the one, the only elegant Lashrecse back on podcast. Delegate Aird, whats going on? How are you doing?

Lashrecse (05:14): In the flesh Zach. Its great to be back. I appreciate the invitation. Im shocked you brought me back. We had an interesting conversation last time. It was a little spicy and Im just glad to be back.

Zach (05:26): Oh no. I was telling my people, I have to rock with some more delegates. Because, Ive had some other elected officials on and they werent really trying to keep it a being like this. I was like, you know what, maybe this is the tier I need to stick with. Because you werent trying to politic me, which was good.

Lashrecse (05:43): No, we need to make sure our people know exactly whats happening and how its happening. So, we have to keep it 100.

Zach (05:48): Speaking of which, lets talk a little bit about the Mayonnaise Coloured Coop.

Lashrecse (05:56): You know thats a good one. I had not heard that, but I like it.

Zach (06:00): Thank you.

Lashrecse (06:00): Because it is absolutely correct.

Zach (06:06): I’m curious to get your perspective and really just get the perspective of someone in that space. In the space of the Hill, as they were. What was it like the days before January 6th and then the day of, and then after? Just walk me through all of that. And also, before we get into you reporting the news, how are you? Are you okay? Are your people, are you safe? Are your people safe? Is everybody okay?

Lashrecse (06:35): We are safe. My people are safe. My family is safe because this pandemic is still very real. Its still unfortunately adversely impacting us and our communities, but were good. I hope the same is true in your household.

Zach (06:48): Yes, everybody is good.

Lashrecse (06:51): Very good. And you know whats unfortunate? That in this country, every single day that we can say that we are good, is like were making it. Because, there are so many reasons why we could not be good and so many reasons every single day that that can change and it doesnt even take very much. But, lets jump into this. What did you say? This mayonnaise coops? Im going to steal that, full notice. But, Zach, heres what I will say. Despite the fact that you are in Houston. I dont think it really matters where you are in this country and as we observed what happened in DC. Because, if you are an American, just starting there, period, a citizen of this country, what happened in DC was shocking to the system. Not surprising, because we have been leading up to it and we can get into all the ways how, but it also was infuriating because of the ultimate double standard on display. So, Im ashamed that two officers that were involved in those events, theyve come from the Commonwealth of Virginia and weve since learned that a number of them have come from all over. But unfortunately, Virginia is always in the mix of everything thats wrong, when it comes to events that are occurring in this country. And what we saw here was panic and Ill explain two ways how. It was panic because number one, the Richmond Capitol is not that far away from DC and we were aware that there were threats made on every state Capitol throughout the country. But then also, the Virginia national guard had to be given permission to go to DC because they needed that additional support. And as a black woman, but also a black leader, I joined in with people in the community here and all around the state and just thinking, we tried to tell you all. Weve been trying to tell you all for four years that this was a possibility and that this could occur. And so, there was just significant unrest, but I have to go back to the double standard. There was also frustration, particularly among black and brown people, because that could not have been black people, number one. Number two, as black and brown people were protesting due to our lives, being taken by law enforcement and a problem that has been happening in this country. We were not given the same level of treatment, or respect, or grace for that matter. But here you have people who have committed the highest crime that you can think of and theyre ultimately given a pass. And not just during the series of events, but even afterwards, we saw reporting that a black protester, who was arrested, was not given bail, was not able to go back to their home. While white protestors, white people who were involved, they were given sort of a slap on a wrist, well check in with you in a few days or a few weeks. So all of it just continues to add to all the reasons why on any day of the week, black people can be like, Im not good and heres why.

Zach (10:32): You know, the day of the insurrection. I recall just seeing a bunch of stuff on social media. And it, even the content that I saw on social media, like in the moment, because everything was getting tweeted live or there were things being live streamed, it looked insane. It looked just absolutely insane. But, what blew me was there was way more stuff that happened that we found out like the subsequent days after. But before we get there, you made some statements just now around like we shouldve seen this coming. This really wasnt a surprise. And you said that weve been trying to tell you all. So, from your perspective, and again, as a delegate in Virginia, like what to you were the signs that this was coming and was really, almost an inevitability?

Lashrecse (11:19): First of all, Im going to take you back to, lets say this is 2021. Ill take you back to the 2020 legislative session, where in Virginia, every MLK Day, the Virginia Citizens Defence League and gun rights advocates have their lobby day. So, let that sink in. On MLK Day, its lobby day for gun activists who can come into the Capitol with your guns. And this was the first year we literally had to shut down the city of Richmond, exits, streets, because of the magnitude of people, gun activists that were involved in this lobby day. And I wish at this moment, I could split to just the image of what we saw, which was you could not walk down the street, you could not drive down the streets for at least a radius of 25 miles outside of the Capitol, of people who had come in from all over the country with their guns, all types of guns. And we had never seen anything like that in the history of the Commonwealth. And to me, that was an indicator of much, much more to come. Thats one angle. When I think about the man whose name we will no longer say because he is not in the white house, but when we think about the individual who was occupying the white house at that time, he has been using many, many examples of proxies to call them out. He has been dog whistling messages, displaying hand signals. He had been preparing his people to act in such a way and make them aware that when the day was to come for them to act, he would be there for them, he would be there with them and he would make sure no harm would come to them. And that is exactly what we saw.

Zach (13:21): You know, it was just, I keep on using the phrase, like disappointed, but not surprised. And I think, I will say though, this time I was a bit shocked because I think the images of these people with confederate flags running all up inside, I mean, like literally in the halls of the House and the Senate, just like, you know. And we found out later folks were planting bombs. It was just incredible, like genuinely like just mind boggling, how something like that can happen. And then for there to be this pushback against reality like, the former occupier of the white house, he didnt incite anything. This just got too far. Its like, how can you all say that?

Lashrecse (14:03): Especially when were still waiting to hear number one, the extent that there were insiders assisting them in their planning and in their execution. And the fact that some of those offices and their locations are not publicly known. For them to be able to locate them and identify them with ease, called into question just how they were given and the help they received. Ill also add that its quite embarrassing as a country, that regularly we promote this idea that we are the greatest and the best country in the entire world and the day of, and the day after, other countries had images of our Capitol inflamed with confederate flags hanging around them all across the world. And when traditionally, our country is the one sending our regards and our prayers to other places or serving as the moral compass for everywhere else. Other countries had to do that for us instead. And that was a sad day. And I think that has forever changed the reputation of what this country represents. And it will continue to be a tarnished reputation, until we get to a place where we rectify the leading cause of what led up to this. And weve yet to do that.

Zach (15:36): To that end. I know that theres major headlines right now from fairly prominent members of the House and the Senate, who are being called to resign, right? Or being called to step down because of their position or their lack of willingness to accept Trumps role in the insurrection, as well as just their behaviour and their statements made right? Im curious, like for you in your immediate space in Virginia, are there similar tensions or would you say thats only reserved for Congress?

Lashrecse (16:08): No, there are similar tensions and I recently read a really good article that equated sort of an equation, of what this comes down to. And it talked about a fear of a loss of power, a fear of a loss of privilege, specifically to white Americans and it equating to what we saw happen in DC. And the reason why its not just limited to DC is because there are white Americans in this country, in every corner of this country, that have that same level of fear. And all it takes is the right triggering, right? Because the article talks about the fact that the former office holder, he did not create that fear. He did not put that level of desire to maintain this power in white Americans hearts. That was already there. All he did was provide a place for it to fester and invited action of what to do with it. And that exists everywhere. And if you get the right people stoking that power, flaming, fanning that flame, we are all the day or two away from this happening right in our communities. And so, no, I dont think its reserved just for DC and until we really figure out, and by the way, not for black people, but for white people to figure out what to do with this fear around loss of power and a loss of privilege, well be in a perpetual cycle of white leaders being able to tap into this at any moment and at any time.

Zach (18:04): So you made a statement there, you alluded to something about the fact that essentially racism, white supremacy is something that white people need to handle.

Lashrecse (18:14): Absolutely. I mean, lets be real. How many other ways can we talk about this? What other actions do we have to take? We have people who claim to be allies and wanting to eradicate this hate in our country. Well, the time has come for them to continue to fight for them to be the coalition builders within their community and to work to combat this hate. There was a lot of ignorance that still exists and Im not going to get into rural versus urban, although its a thing, but as long as people who know better fail to speak up, particularly in the white community, we will never have enough ammunition solely as a black community. And Im just going to say black and brown community, to be able to combat that hate by ourselves.

Zach (19:07): You know, were airing this, during Black History Month and Id like to talk to you a little bit about accountability, right? There continues to be this narrative that were being divisive. If we seek to impeach the former occupier of the White House while hes already out of office, and the best thing that we can do now is just to move forward. Im curious, are those conversations that are being had in your halls? And in general, just like what has been your response to that sentiment?

Lashrecse (19:40): I’ll be honest and say that in Virginia, were in session right now, but we are not spending a lot of time talking about the impeachment, conversation thats occurring at the federal level and theres a few reasons for that. I will say because number one, I think as leaders, state leaders, theres a lot of dysfunction happening, or that has happened at the federal level. And while president Biden has now come in and hes quickly trying to rectify that, we still are accountable to the people we represent right here in the state. And it would be a horrible waste of time while we are in session, which is only a short session by the way, to focus on the actions that need to occur at the federal level. I will also state that, we each have our own individual opinions around this matter of impeachment, but they dont formalize in a way that were talking about them as a legislature. I personally, and I will say, as a leader, do believe impeachment proceedings need to continue because at what point does, we draw the line? At what point do we make it clear about what will, and wont be tolerated in this country? I think there was a baseline assumption that storming the capital is not acceptable by way of moral standards, ethical standards, and also hello the law. But clearly, were living in a new day and age and perhaps re-establishing that baseline needs to occur by way of impeaching the former office holder to really double down on the fact that this wont be tolerated, but also, hello, who wants another four years of the previous office holder? Without this formal impeachment process, we will not be free of worry that the four years that we just lived through could return, if we dont take the option away for him to seek another four years permanently.

Zach (21:45): You made statements earlier about, again, like this concept of losing power, and not wanting to address the reality of white supremacy and this ethos that has continue to poison the well and really the foundation, a large part of the foundation of this country. But, Im curious, do you think that theres this attitude that almost seems delegate air to me, like a net and whats the word? Whats the word am I looking for? Its like a net sum? Whats the phrase? Hold on now. Almost like theres like a limited piece. Like theres only so much power to go around right? So almost as like, there seems to be like this fear that if we lose something, that means that were going to be willing to being oppressed and I just dont think that thats true. I think theres a way that we can actually work together and equity actually can support the betterment of everybody.

Lashrecse (22:47): Thats absolutely true. And that has been proven time and time again. Diverse perspectives and considerations have proven to make companies stronger to make our school division stronger and to make our communities stronger. But if you are isolated and you are surrounded by nothing but like thinkers, no one to challenge your perspective and understanding and expose you to more than you are comfortable with your ideals and beliefs. And if those ideals and beliefs are hatred are discriminatory and are based on bias, there is no one there to tell you or show you why they are wrong. And I said I wasnt going to get into this, but that is part of the problem of what we see in some of our rural communities. Im not going to categorize them as a monolith because they are not. But when you think about where some of the fuel for many of the divide ideologically come from both on a policy perspective, but on social issues. It oftentimes can be intrinsically linked to the lack of diversity of thought and perspectives within those communities.

Zach (24:21): Let’s talk a little bit about what you got going on now. And honestly, Im really curious about how youre able to maintain and just do your job in light of all of the activity happening up there. I mean, before we talk about relieving you, like kind of the things you got going on right now and things being in session right now, Im curious about how do you compare the feelings from January 6th to the inauguration? Like what was that like emotionally, like just dealing with that over a short period of time.

Lashrecse (24:58): You know, it really was a spectrum of emotion because for the first time in the history of this country, we have a black woman that is a heartbeat away. And when you let that sink in, I think about the fact that president Biden as an older white man, deliberately selecting a black woman, it gives me hope for the direction we can continue to fight to go in as a country. But make no mistake about it. The last four years were quite traumatizing in so many ways, but unfortunately for black and brown people, weve become all too accustomed with managing and working through that trauma. And so, particularly as a leader, I will say I reconcile my emotions with the fact that Im here in this moment, a moment of unprecedented change, unprecedented challenges and as a spiritual leader, I felt like Im called for this moment. And I dont have the unfortunate opportunity to sit and wallow in any emotion. I have a responsibility to figure out for all the people who are depending on me, what solutions am I going to offer. Because without those, we dont make progress and we dont cease this moment and this opportunity.

Zach (26:37): I mean, certainly I know you and all your people have because racism is over again.

Lashrecse (26:43): Wait, wait, wait, wait, you want to go there? You said you wanted to be messy, lets be clear, right? We could rehash the whole presidential election bid and our emotions of President Biden. Were not going to do that. Right? And we are also not saying that black folks are finally at the top of the mountain, because Vice President Kamala Harris is there and President Biden is here. That is not at all what that means. And quite frankly, I think this conversation is important, right? Because what we see as a cycle of were successful in getting somebody that we want in the White House. Cool. Well let them work. No, I dont think that there should be anyone who should ever make that mistake again. We have people who are now in leadership and are bringing some, I dont want to say normalcy, but some level of integrity back to the office of the presidency, but there is still so much work to be done to hold them accountable. They make commitments, they put out plans and we want to see those plans executed on. And the only way to ensure that occurs is to keep the pressure. The same is true in state legislatures. While the federal government, particularly Congress and Senate are fighting with each other on so many things that we need right now, as a result of this pandemic, there is serious opportunity and state legislatures to make sure that they are doing whats in their power to do while were waiting on the federal government to get it right. So, by no means, are we somehow now automatically better positioned because of the presidency and vice presidency? Absolutely not. We have to keep the pressure on and on a multitude of issues that we can get into.

Zach (28:39): And I love that. Of course, Im joking as well. I know racism is not over. And no, definitely not aiming to be messy again. But I do think that to that end, it is about pressure and holding folks accountable. My hope and I have a sliver of it, again, which is rare for me. Because I havent really felt over the past four and a half years is that it seems as if we have someone in office who has the demeanour to be held accountable, right? Theres a certain level of, Im going to just say decency, right? Its like, look, if we protest or if we say something or we mobilize, theres at least a small snowballs chance that itll be heard and respected and by some degree. So that, to me, is encouraging. Lets talk a little bit to your point at the state level. You said something there about, theres plenty of space and opportunity right now. Like if you were to think about, we were talking about right in this moment, especially when you think about the fact that Democrats have both the Senate and the House, and overall, there seems to be just far more control that the Democrats have. I wont say state to state, but thats the era that were in. What do you think that one, lets talk about Virginia first, because thats where youre at. But then lets talk about at large, you know, states can be doing in this moment to take advantage to seize this moment to create greater equity for those on the margins.

Lashrecse (30:20): So Im glad you asked. I actually am going to flip your question a little bit. I think I want to speak broadly about the country and then come back to Virginia.

Zach (30:33): Sounds good.

Lashrecse (30:33): So broadly as a country, lets start at the pandemic level. As a result of COVID-19, the plight, the challenges and barriers that black and brown communities have been experiencing for decades have been exacerbated as a result of COVID-19. And I dont care where you are. This is true, no matter where you are. And state legislatures have an opportunity right now to do corrective action. So, we can start on the healthcare front we are seeing, or its been revealed and at least amplified that our healthcare structures, Im not just talking about hospitals, Im talking about real healthcare infrastructures, your health departments, these clinics that are now being responsible for stepping up in major ways and impoverished communities. They have been historically underfunded. Formulas are not accurate, and everyday people should be pushing for these things to be corrected as what youre seeing, the disproportional impact that this pandemic is having on black and brown communities. Criminal justice system, thats a no brainer. Your states can correct significantly the policing laws and reforms that need to occur, that you feel directly. We dont have to even look to the federal government to do that, although we can in a multitude of ways, but right here at your right there at home, your states can manage that. Lets talk about our school systems, especially in impoverished communities. Not only are we seeing increased levels of segregation from affluent communities to impoverished communities, but as a result of the pandemic, and so many of our school divisions operating virtually, we are seeing drops in reading levels and academic performance, and we are seeing resources to protect the safety of students, especially as they are transitioning to a return, be disproportionately allocated.

Lashrecse (32:34): That is another opportunity for your states legislature and your states leaders to not only properly address the right now, but relay the foundation and correct inadequate funding models that have existed long before the pandemic. And so, my message is we want corrective action. In addition to the resources we need to get out of this pandemic, and now is the time to do it because at the moment, we cant afford to go any longer without doing it. So, I just want to make that point, but then to talk about what were doing in Virginia, I would be remiss if I didnt talk about the fact that were in session right now, but were just coming out of a special session. That was called to not only introduce, I guess I can say relief for the pandemic, but also to address the social unrest we were seeing right in the city of Richmond and throughout many areas in the Commonwealth. And as a result of that first session, I was very proud to carry Briannas law and help Virginia lead the way and pushing other States to do the same and honour in memory of who she is and what she represented. But then also, this current session, we have the potential to become the first state in the South to declare racism as a public health crisis. Im carrying that resolution and thats a lot to unpack in there, but at the end of the day, racism continues to hurt black and brown people in every system of government, through every institution and on a myriad of issues, housing, transportation, healthcare, education, I mean the criminal justice system, you name it, we are being adversely impacted. And so, we have a lot before us this session, eliminating abolishing the death penalty, taking up eliminating qualified immunity, legalization of marijuana. I mean, we are carrying a heavy load of issues and thats because black leaders in the Commonwealth, we are not apologizing about the fact that we are not going a day longer without repairing the harms that have been done to black and brown people, especially in the home of the confederacy. And its an and moment not an or…

Zach (35:02): Come on [inaudible]. Im trying to air things as well, you know?

Lashrecse (35:10): Yes. Yes, absolutely.

Zach (35:14): So now, I know that youre not a fortune teller, right? You dont know the future, but you know the game, Lashrecse. You know the game. I dont know the game. [inaudible]

Lashrecse (35:24): Okay. I’m going to dig deep into that part.

Zach (35:27): Okay. You know how these mechanisms really be mechanizing. I dont know. Now, what do you think are some reasonable expectations for the black American in the Biden administration? Biden Harris, excuse me, administration. I dont think Im going to get my reparation checks on, or get my truck full of menthols. But Im trying to figure out, talk to me about what you think are some reasonable expectations. And then where do you feel as if we will need to push and advocate to get some things that we need? Like, give me your perspective on that.

Lashrecse (36:00): So I brought up the special session that we had here in Virginia, because I strongly believe that were It not for advocates, activists, and protestors, it would have never happened. And I say that because that is what mobilizing and activating is. It is about applying that pressure to get leaders to act. And thats ultimately why I do not want people to get comfortable, because the moment and Im a leader too, so I know it because I react to it; the moment leaders feel like everything is calm, under control and that they are controlling the outcomes and all things, theyre going to do what they normally do, which might not be pushing the limit on these issues as much as we would like to see them do. So, first of all, you know, Zach, you didnt ask about Harriet on the black 20, and I thought you were going to bring that up in terms of black people need to be excited about that. But

Zach (37:06): So, I wasnt trying to be that guy.

Lashrecse (37:14): What do you mean what should black people look for? Were getting Harriet on a 20.

Zach (37:17): Oh my God. You know whats crazy, is that, whats crazy… Hold on. Let me back up. First of all, you know whats really cool about this? This is my platform. So, I’m about to say something and I wouldn’t say it anywhere else, but Im going to say it here. I own this. It Is crazy. All due respect to the Tubman family, because I know they wanted this to proceed, right? That dont necessarily mean that I have to agree with it, but respect to you all. Heres the thing, black people have been traded and used as currency for the past 400 years. So, I dont necessarily need to see a black womans face on currency. Id rather black people receive currency, right?

Lashrecse (37:54): Thats right.

Zach (37:55): Thats where Im at. Respect to the Topman family. I understand. But I want to say they was even trying to flip it. Like they were going to have Harriet on one side and Jackson on the other side. And I was like, what kind of crazy?

Lashrecse (38:06): Thats some real white people idea.

Zach (38:06): Thats a wild, wild idea. So thats how were going to bring people together, right? Were going to have the person who was a sedition, a terrorist, on the same dollar bill? You want to put both people together. That is crazy. So, I hear you. Like I said, I did want to bring that up.

Lashrecse (38:35): See, I wound you up.

Zach (38:36): You triggered me. Thats crazy. And Ill be honest with you, right? At first, if this was like a few years back and I didnt really decalcify my pineal gland I wasnt looking at it with my third eye, you feel me? And I was kind of excited about it, but I was like, you know what, wait a second, inflation? This $20 bill, [inaudible] I was like, no, no, no, no, I dont want that. I dont want that.

Lashrecse (38:57): Youre making my point. We cannot get distracted. We cannot settle for tokens of you know, here are things that you should be grateful. Look what we did for you. Look how we… Elements of symbols that is not money in our communities. That is not systemic changes to these institutions. That is not reforms to our laws. And those are the things we should be pushing for. So, going back to your question from a Biden Harris administration, I dont think anyone is expecting anything less than additional relief, because folks are still out here suffering and just trying to make it and mind you, dying from this pandemic. We havent even talked about vaccines and the disproportional distribution that we are seeing around this country. But there is still so much we need to see come out of this administration on the vaccine from. We have to continue to talk about criminal justice, our criminal justice system. I mean, we talked about legalization here. The conversation occurring in Virginia right now, but there are so many things that need to happen at the federal government level. I dont want to create a list, but there are environmental factors. We could really have a whole episode by itself, on the policies we need this administration to be focused on. And that quite frankly, black and brown people should be entitled to as a result of putting them in the white house.

Zach (40:42): Goodness gracious. Okay. Now, Lashrecse, we appreciate you. We thank you for your time. I cant thank you enough. Im glad that youre safe. Thank you for joining The Living Corporate podcast. Look, before we get up out of here, where can people support you? Where people like learn more about what youre doing, like drop that stuff in here, and then well put the links in the show notes, but plug your stuff, please.

Lashrecse (41:05): Absolutely. First of all, Zach, because of you, every month is black history month. Without The Living Corporate podcast, the voices of black leaders, black entrepreneurs, black authors and writers, they would not be amplified in the way that they are. So, first of all, we have to give thanks to Living Corporate and the work that you are doing Zach. Secondly, Ill just say, if youre interested in the work that Im doing, if you want to join the fight with me in Virginia, holding leaders accountable, speaking truth to power and demanding truth from power. You can follow me @delegateaired on Twitter, @Lashrecse on Instagram. Zach, were on Clubhouse, Lashrecse on Clubhouse. You know, Im trying to keep up with the times. So, you can find me on any platform. I even still have a LinkedIn. Lashrecse on LinkedIn, because we are professionals. We use LinkedIn too.

Zach (42:18): Amen. Well, look, were going to talk to you soon. The next time you got something going on, because we have actually a nice little relationship in our Virginia area. You get at me. I want to make sure Im promoting you. And we just really appreciate you. Thank God for folks who are in the street, really out here, coordinating and lifting us up. Well talk to you soon.

Lashrecse (42:38): Thank you so much. Take care.

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Zach (43:29): And were back. Thank you so much Delegate Lashrecse, for being a guest on the show. Thank you for talking about what it really means to create true movement, being focused and not being distracted. There was something that we talked about in there around just its easy you all to get caught up in gestures. Gestures are cool, but when we look at a gesture and take it as meaningful systemic change, thats the problem. So, Im not anti-gestures, but weve been doing gestures for a while. We should be looking to create actual change and thats not going to happen until we coordinate as a community and challenge the systems that are in place today. So again, shout out to Delegate Lashrecse, check out all of her information in the show notes. And until next time you all, this has been Zach with Living Corporate. Peace.

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