44 : Season 2 Kickoff Show

Zach and Ade officially kick off Living Corporate Season 2 by announcing new… well, just about everything! New guests and blog posts, weekly tips provided by Tristan Layfield, and even new background music! They also discuss the expansion of Favorite Things and listener letters for Season 2.

Email us at livingcorporatepodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on any of our social media platforms to submit your Favorite Things and listener letters!


Zach: Ayo!


Ade: What’s good?


Zach: We’re back, we’re back. What’s going on, everybody? Welcome to Living Corporate Season 2.


Ade: Sure is.


Zach: Season 2, let’s go. Look, more intentional–is it more intentional? Does more intentional–is that grammatically correct?


Ade: I–I do believe so, yeah.


Zach: Okay, great. More intentional. Bolder. More fun. What kind of topics do we have this season, Ade? I feel like we’ve got some hot stuff.


Ade: We do. So this season we’re gonna be talking about interesting stuff like supporting black when at work, which I personally am a fan of. Being disabled while other at work, respectability politics. I mean, the real behind the helpfulness of HR. Being Latinx at work. We have a ton more content. We got some great feedback from the blog last season as well, so we’re continuing that this year. Definitely, definitely, definitely make sure you check us out. It’ll be on our website, living-corporate.com, and on our Medium page.


Zach: In the off-season, right, we actually made some moves, okay? So we bought more domains, right? Okay, so we got livingcorporate.tv. We got livingcorporate.co. We got livingcorporate.org. We really have every Living Corporate. We have livingcorporate.net, right? We have every Living Corporate besides livingcorporate.com, because Australia owns livingcorporate.com.


Ade: Hold on. Now, this is the first I’m hearing of this. I have to fight Australia for–what?


Zach: So it’s a company in Australia, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they have livingcorporate.com, but we have all the other Living Corporates without the dashes, right, and the hyphens, so we’re making these moves. Definitely excited about the blog. Like, that’s gonna be great. Like, everybody isn’t a podcast person, right? Like, we have this podcast. We love our podcast. The podcast is probably 90%, 95%, right, as we currently stand of what we have going on, but we want to better diversify our media offerings, because people engage in content in different ways, and we really believe in what we’re doing. I would hate–I would hate for all the great things that we have going on to not be captured or not be absorbed rather. And speaking of more content and engaging people in different ways… some of y’all probably remember Tristan Layfield.


Ade: Aye.


Zach: Yes. He was a guest on the show last season on the episode–it was a B-Side for Landing the Job of Your Dreams. And he’s a resume subject matter expert in terms of how to write them, and he’s a career coach. Doing great stuff, right? Doing great stuff, and he’s graciously offered to be a part of the Living Corporate team for Season 2 to give y’all his own nuggets of wisdom, and he’s gonna put ’em on the show.


Ade: Amazing. Shout-out to Tristan.


Zach: To me that’s crazy, right? Shout-out to Tristan Layfield and Layfield Resume, man. Like, shout-out to those folks over there. He’s doing great work. In fact, can we get some applause? Can we get some applause for us right now, like, collaborating, sharing spaces?


Ade: Totally.


Zach: I mean, come on. Let’s do that. Let’s do that. Maybe even some air horns too, I don’t know. That reminds me though, [inaudible] sound effects, drops and stuff like that, we’re also gonna new background music this season. Now, look. We got a lot of feedback. People are really feeling the background music. I’m gonna call it blackground music, right? It’s jazzy. It’s soulful. It’s refreshing, right? It’s good. It’s good. We’ve gotten good feedback on it. So we’re excited about the fact that we’re gonna have some new blackground music this season and new mixes for our SoundCloud. So look, we have a decent amount of followers on SoundCloud. Of course we have our most followers on Instagram, but look, on our SoundCloud, y’all, we drop mixes and, like, custom music. I know, I know, I know. You’re like, “What? Y’all doing a lot.” I know.


Ade: We got the aux cord.


Zach: We got the aux cord, we got the aux cord. And listen, the mixes are fire. They’re not–there’s no profanity or nothing on ’em, so when your colleagues at work, when they ask, “Hey, Jamal, do you have any music you’d like for us to play? We’re having a late-night working session here.” This actually happened to me when I was in Japan working with my colleagues. They were like, “Hey, let’s get some music going on. Let’s get some music going on.” So one of my colleagues, I’m not gonna say who it was, wanted to play some Nickelback. I was like–


Ade: Now, hold on. Hold on, hold on. What?


Zach: Okay. So Nickelback, yeah. And I’m like, “Hey, uh, Brock, if you could just hand me the charger–hand me the aux and I’ll handle it.” And I take the aux cord, I’m playing the music, and let me tell you. Fire. We had a good time. They were like, “Ooh, what mix is this?” Then–another example and I’ll stop–I had an orientation. So at my job, my new job, orientation. For some reason they were like, “Hey, our music isn’t really working.” Like, “Our playlist isn’t working.” I said, “Okay, cool.” I plugged in my little–plugged in the SoundCloud, right? Work and Weekend Vibes Volume 1. Man. The guy, right? Senior guy who was coordinating the whole thing goes, “Hey, this is–hey. Hey. Hey, guy! Hey. Music’s pretty good.” I said, “Thank you. Thank you.” It was great. It was great. We had a great time. So the point is we’re gonna have more of that, okay? And it’s gonna be fire, so we need y’all to check it out. Now, I talked about drops, right? Like, we talked about kind of, like, sound effects and stuff like that. Ade, what kind of drops should we have? Like, we’re not a hip hop podcast, right? Like, we’re not gonna have gunshots, right?


Ade: I mean, you know what? I just feel like there are occasions in which something so fire was said that a gunshot or two might be appropriate.


Zach: [laughing] That’s so problematic.


Ade: Listen, listen. I just feel as though there are some celebrations that require a *brap-brap* or two.


Zach: A *brap-brap*! [laughs] Well, the funny thing is that culturally, right, culturally, like, there are different–you know, it’s just–it’s different. I’ve seen videos, man, of cats, like, just–I saw a video at a wedding. Everybody had guns, shooting them thangs off at the end, right? Like, as opposed to throwing rice they was throwing bullets in the air. It was crazy.


Ade: So listen, as someone who has been to many a Jamaican function, yes. That’s all I’m gonna say to that.


Zach: Word? That’s the wave? That’s the wave? I don’t know. That’s–wow.


Ade: I mean, a graduation, a baby shower…


Zach: A baby shower? They’re shooting–wait, whoa, whoa. They’re letting ’em go at the baby shower?


Ade: Nothing is complete–no celebration is truly complete until there’s gunshots in the air.


Zach: Until you let them thangs go? Wow. So this is the scary part about gunshots, right, is that when you shoot ’em up like that, I mean, just because of the way that gravity works, they’re gonna fall, right? They’re gonna come back.


Ade: [laughing] What goes up surely must come down.


Zach: [laughing] They’re coming down. Can you imagine? Like, that is scary. You’re in your house and you hear [sound of bullets dropping], and it’s not rain? Like, “That is the smallest, fastest hail I’ve ever heard in my life.”


Ade: All I want to say is that [the sound Zach made] is not how guns sound.


Zach: [laughs] When they fall. When they fall though. When they fall.


Ade: You know what? I still don’t feel like metal sounds like [the sound] when it falls on the ground. Feel free to correct me on this one.


Zach: You don’t think so? [laughs] I just think–I just think because they’re so small. Like, they’re bullets. They’ve already been fired, so they’re not–


Ade: I mean, that’s cute and all, but metal just doesn’t sound like that.


Zach: It don’t sound like that? That’s [inaudible].


Ade: No. I also know that if I ever need some on the spot sound effects you’re not gonna be the guy that I go to for–


Zach: Wow. My sound effects are fire.


Ade: Are they though? Because thus far you’ve given me [the sound] and *brap-brap*.


Zach: So I’ve asked you–so look, we’ve completely derailed, right? I asked you what sound effects we need. You’ve only–you’ve suggested gunshots.


Ade: Okay, first of all, I didn’t suggest gunshots. I said that gunshots should not be entirely out of our arsenal–see what I did there?


Zach: Wow. Bars.


Ade: [laughs] Should not be entirely out of our arsenal of sound effects. That’s all I am saying personally.


Zach: So what are we thinking? Are we thinking, like, maybe stuff from, like, a different world? Right? Like, I don’t know–


Ade: You know what? I don’t–I feel like we should stay away from, like, sitcom-y sounds, but also just not be dead… so there is an in-between here, and we just have to walk the road and find it.


Zach: We do. So yeah, more on that. We’ll figure out what exactly those sounds are.


Ade: See the wisdom I just applied there without saying anything at all?


Zach: No, no, you did. No, no, it was good. It was good, it was good.


Ade: I appreciate my roses when I get them. I’m sorry. I’m acting a fool today. All right.


Zach: Okay.


Ade: Back to it. Favorite Things are back.


Zach: Yeah, they back.


Ade: However, this year–stay with me here–we want y’all to submit some of your Favorite Things.


Zach: There you go.


Ade: That’s right. I’m tired of being clowned for my Favorite Things. I feel as though it is only fair that we open up our space to include others, open up our horizons by sharing with us what brings you some joy or the next week or the week after that.


Zach: And you know what? Speaking of, like, sharing things, like, let me just–let me just talk about what we’re sharing today, okay? We’re sharing space. So you may say, “Well, yes, Zach, we are sharing space in this corporate structure as non-white people in majority-white working places, and yes, we have to figure out ways to share and navigate space–” No, no, no. I’m not talking about. I’m talking about we’re practically sharing space today. Ade is sharing space in a golf room of her–of her apartment. So if you hear this, like, whooshing sound in the background, those are not beheadings. That’s a man swinging at a golf ball with fiber in his being. He is hitting it as hard as he possibly can. He knows–


Ade: As hawrd?


Zach: Hawrd. Hawrd, yes, as he–as he possibly can. He knows that we are in this room, and this is how he’s choosing to share the space with us. So–


Ade: I just–first of all, he’s–like, this is–this is the intended purpose of the room.




Ade: That’s one. Two, let it never be said that I don’t go to some extremes for Living Corporate, okay? Because I have recorded–


Zach: No, you’ve made–this is up there with when you recorded that show with Christa in the closet with all the blankets on top of your body.


Ade: I have contorted myself into some very interesting places for Living Corporate, so I just–again, I appreciate my flowers when they are given to me.


Zach: No, you are–you are appreciated, it’s just I don’t want to be implicated in any type of murder.


Ade: See? See? Why you gotta be like that?




Zach: Because it sounds–because it sounds so scary to me, right? Like, it sounds–


Ade: Imagine being the person.


Zach: Man, no, no. That sounds terrifying. Okay, let’s continue. So I know we talked about Favorite Things. Listener letters.


Ade: All right. Listener letters. So we’re taking both Favorite Things and listener letters, wherever you’re choosing to submit them. So whether you want to email them, DM us on social media–preferably Instagram, but wherever we be at, you be at–submit your Favorite Things, and we will absolutely shout you out, share your Favorite Things, and maybe talk through some of the irritating things, or awesome things, that are going on in your corporate world. So if you want to talk about your coworker accusing you of stealing their lunch, drop us a line. If you want to talk about the amazing win that you’ve had or the proposal that you just won or the grants that you just wrote or just about the fact that you don’t feel like you’re getting anywhere in your career at all. Whatever it is you want to share, let us know. We’re here. What else?


Zach: I mean, that’s a good–that’s a good point. We really want–we definitely want the letters, right? And we definitely want the Favorite Things, so just submit ’em. Like, we’re flexible. We’re available, right? We’re here for y’all. We got all these domains, right? We got all these different social media platforms. DMs open on all of ’em, you know what I’m saying? You just hit us up. Of course we prefer it in email, so who cares? Send it to us.


Ade: [laughs] Who cares what our preference is?


Zach: Yeah, who cares about our preference? We are here to serve y’all. That’s serving leadership, you see what I mean? Because we love y’all, you hear?


Ade: I see you, change manager. I see you.


Zach: That’s right. Look, you gotta put yourself last, okay?


Ade: I don’t know about all that. [laughs]


Zach: [laughs] “Wait a minute. Hold on.”


Ade: [laughs] Hold on, now. Nah, nah.


Zach: “Hold on, hold on. Not last. Maybe not first.” What about second to first? All right, so what else? Okay, yeah, yeah. So look. Now, we’ve said this–we’ve said this multiple times, and I need, like, some–I need, like, some softer sentimental music, kind of like the music before you donate to those dogs and stuff with their eyes all big and the cats, and they look all sad. I need that in the background.


Ade: [supplies sad music acapella style]


Zach: Listen, y’all know that we need 5 stars. Y’all know that we need 5 star ratings.


Ade: You know I’m not about to do this with you, right? [laughs]


Zach: For a simple two seconds. A one-time donation of 2 seconds. You can actually contribute to the over-arching health and promotion of the Living Corporate podcast if you just slide over to iTunes, the podcast section. Scroll down on Living Corporate’s little page on the podcast. It’s gonna say, “Leave a review. Leave a rating.” You’re gonna take your finger, and you’re gonna just press 5. 5 stars.


Ade: 5 of ’em.


Zach: Do you have 5 on it? ‘Cause I’ve had 5 on it, okay?


Ade: [singing] I got 5 on it.


Zach: Now, we’re not gonna get copy–we’re not gonna sued for that because we didn’t play the audio.


Ade: We didn’t, and also Jordan Peele has made it kind of creepy, so…


Zach: Yes, he has, and so we actually probably won’t even reference that again.


Ade: Yeah, that’s gonna be the first and the last time we do that on the sh ow.


Zach: Facts. But look, really, we need 5 stars, okay? So please do us the favor of giving us these 5 stars. And look, let me just go ahead–so that was the–that’s kind of like the carrot, you know?


Ade: Okay. First of all–there’s no stick, number one. Number two, I just want to say we also appreciate your comments that come along with those. So if you want to share any feedback, if you’d like us to bring any guests back or a rerun episode or maybe get a little bit deeper on a topic that we’ve discussed in the past, let us know. But yeah, give us the 5 stars.


Zach: So there’s no stick, so I didn’t mean it that way. That was me being softer, right? But, like, let me just be practical. We have, like, thousands upon thousands of downloads on our podcast every month, and yet we only have, like, 120 reviews.


Ade: It’s very hurtful.


Zach: Right? It hurts me, right? I’m like, “Yo.” And then people will be like–and then people be on Instagram, “This podcast influences me the most every day. I love listening to this podcast,” and I feel the love, I do, but I would feel it more if I could get some of these 5 star reviews. So what can we do to, like, help support 5 star reviews? Like, how can we–how can we encourage the audience to participate in 5 star reviews, Ade?


Ade: I have an idea.


Zach: All right, go ahead.


Ade: We could do giveaways.


Zach: Giveaways? Giveaways is a–okay, okay, but what are we–what are we giving away? ‘Cause it’s not like we have–


Ade: If you send us screenshots of your review, you enter a drawing. How’s that sound?


Zach: Right, but what do we have though? It’s not like we have any, I mean–


Ade: I mean, we do have Living Corporate mugs–hold on, I’m pretty certain we do. We have mugs.


Zach: So that’s an announcement, right? So that’s, like, a two-in-one, right? We have mugs, and we’re gonna do giveaways.


Ade: Aye.


Zach: Okay, so we do have mugs. I agree that we should do giveaways, so let’s do that. Yeah, so we have, like, these Living Corporate mugs, y’all, and they’re actually pretty cute. They’re really cute. They’re big, so, like, you know, you can put a lot of whatever your drink of choice is.


Ade: Coffee. We’re drinking coffee.


Zach: Coffee. Listen, let’s not–


Ade: Although if you’re making–if you’re adding a little whiskey in there, that’s between you and your cup.


Zach: I’ve seen it. It’s potatoes between you and your cup. Don’t ask me about what’s in my cup, you know? I won’t ask.


Ade: I really feel like that needs to be a thing. “Don’t ask me about what is in my cup.”


Zach: Don’t ask me about what’s in my cup. No, I mean, I’ve seen it, and, you know–like, you see it on TV a lot, right? And I don’t think it’s, like, crazy, but I have seen people have a little something at the bottom of their drawer for the end of the day. I’ve seen that before. More so in industry. I’ve definitely never seen it in consulting, but I have seen it in industry. So okay. Cool, cool, cool. So yes, we definitely will do the giveaways. And they’re not on the website yet, right? Like, we don’t have the merch on the website, but we do have mugs. And we’re not popping enough, I don’t think, to justify us trying to sell y’all some mugs, okay, but we do have mugs that we can give out for free to encourage y’all to support the Living Corporate team.


Ade: Word.


Zach: What else? What else? Okay, okay, okay. So, you know, really this season of Living Corporate–so, you know, we learned a lot, right? Like, last season, of course it just being our first season–we’re not even a year old yet. You know, coming in, just trying to figure out, like, what the tone is gonna be, how we address topics. And so y’all, really though, expect more intentional, like, commentary and content and just, like, general topics. Expect more fun, right? So we’re gonna try to be a little bit more laid-back. Last year was really scripted. We got that feedback a lot, but we were trying to just make sure that we were keeping things succinct and tight, and we didn’t want to miss–


Ade: Because as you can see, we have a tendency to stray completely off-topic and wander down alleys of distraction, but–


Zach: But, you know, it is what it is. And the thing–and the thing about it is, I think–I think the other point is, like, more people than not have said, “Hey, you know, we’d really like to, like, get to know y’all more.” Like, “We’d like to get know you and Ade more, understand y’all’s relationship. We’d like to get to know other people on the team. You said you’ve got other folks around.” Like, “We’d like to get to know people more,” and I think there’s way that we can both approachable and personable and at the same time being, you know, still–like, still stick true to what it is we really ultimately want to talk about. But yeah, I just wanted to let y’all–just say that part, because we’re really excited about this season, you know? Y’all know. Y’all know it’s a crazy time out here. 45 got all us messed up. Yeah, I said it. I said it.


Ade: I mean, these are just facts.


Zach: They’re facts. They’re facts. They’re facts. They’re Facts Kellerman, okay? They’re–[laughs] Hey, side-note. So apparently somebody in the DMV–Ade told me that some people be walking around saying “factory.” [laughs]


Ade: Hold on, what?


Zach: So, you know, people will be like, “Facts.”


Ade: That sounds–that sounds like something that you say in, like, Waldorf.


Zach: [laughs] You said “factory.” Like, “factory?” That’s not–no, factory is a whole different word. That’s–no, that doesn’t work.


Ade: Nope, nope. And I know that there is, like, a trend of saying things are true when they aren’t, word to your president, but…


Zach: Factory.


Ade: I’m here to categorically deny any and all claims that we say that in the DMV. We just–we do not.


Zach: Yeah, no. That’s not gonna work.


Ade: Actually, let me not–let me not do that, because the teeny-boppers might. But what do they know? They’re teeny-boppers.


Zach: They don’t know. They don’t know. “Factory” is not the way. “Factory” is a whole other word. But the point is, you know, it’s just a crazy time. Like, we know it is. We see–we’re seeing stories of, like, blatant inequity and inequality and oppression and just general wrong-doing every day, and, you know, there’s plenty of spaces that you can engage for, like, fairly moderate, semi-safe, (rarely?) wholly-safe discussions around–dialogues around race. Or, you know, you can tune into CNN or whatever for that. You can tune into anything else for that. Like, we’re trying to have, like–


Ade: Tune into who?


Zach: I was saying, like, CNN. You know CNN. They’ll be like, “A Dialogue On Race: Part 1.” “A Dialogue On Race: Part 2.” You know? Like, we’re not trying to have quote-unquote a dialogue. Like, we’re trying to really center and respect and give credence to the perspectives of people that are not often heard, right? Irrespective of how senior they may be in the organization or what their education level is. They’re not heard, they’re not seen, and so, like, we’re trying to drive content that centers them, that affirms that, and that really continues to encourage folks to be thoughtful and empathetic to their neighbor. And, like, that’s what we’re trying to do. So, you know, this season is gonna be–our hope is it’s gonna be way more courageous in that way. Not to say we weren’t courageous in Season 1, but, like, I want to–I want to be more courageous season-to-season, right?


Ade: Right, and to add to that and not interrupt you–my bad.


Zach: No, you’re good. You’re good.


Ade: Part of centering the voices of black and brown folks in this space means we’re not going to be doing the “there are good people on both sides” BS, because I’m sorry, like, you’re not gonna equate my voice to that of a Nazi.


Zach: Right, yeah. That’s super true.


Ade: That’s, like–of all the things that we’re gonna do, that’s just not going to be one of them on this here platform. And I’m sure there are–I mean, there are plenty of spaces in which you could do that. This just is not going to be one of those, and I’m perfectly comfortable categorically saying that.


Zach: Yeah, straight up. Because this is the thing, like, it’s not–and I think that’s the other issue, like a lot of times when we have conversations like these, we present it like, “Oh, well, you know, both sides just need to understand.” Like, no, both sides don’t really need to understand. Like, one side needs to be more empathetic and conscious of their behaviors, actions, and their privileges, and the other side–the other side don’t need to do nothing. Like, nah. I was gonna say we should be more–you know, we could be gracious and just kind of, like, be willing to receive the help, but, I mean, nah. Like, a lot of times we don’t even necessarily need help as much as we just don’t need harm. You know what I mean? And so anyway, I–


Ade: You’re my fav, Zach.


Zach: What’d you say, Ade?


Ade: You’re my fav.


Zach: [laughs]


Ade: ‘Cause you got there, ’cause I really was about to be like, “What was that?” No, but the fundamental premise remains that it’s actually harmful that the conversation is constantly asking those without power to be gracious and to have mercy and be kind and do all of the emotional labor for those with power, and I’m not just speaking to racial dynamics. I’m also speaking in any and all forms of–and we know that intersectionality is a thing–but speaking to any and all forms of misaligned dynamics, power dynamics, and the onus is almost always on the oppressed to coddle the oppressor, and I’m just gonna say that 2019, it’s not–that’s not the wave we’re on. You’re either catching up or you’re getting left behind, and I feel like we just took a very, like, sharp revolutionary turn [inaudible], so let’s dial it back and talk about our social media. [laughs]


Zach: [laughs] Man, it did. I was like, “Dang, if I take that ball back and I continue with this wave, the next pivot’s gonna be too aggressive.” Let’s transition back onto Instagram.


Ade: [laughs] Right? This is the kickoff episode. Let’s treat it as such.


Zach: Yeah, yeah, yeah.


Ade: And we’ve definitely been going on for a nice little while now.


Zach: [laughs] Well, this is the thing, right? Historically you’re absolutely right, that it’s often been the oppressed’s job to massage the feelings, emotions, of the people who have–who are the oppressors, who are the people with authority, who have the power, privilege and access.


Ade: One more thing and I promise I’ll shut up.


Zach: Go ahead.


Ade: I won’t.


Zach: No, don’t shut up. Go ahead.


Ade: Here’s the other thing. I wonder how much more we could be doing, and by we I mean just people who fall on the wrong side of the power dynamics. I wonder how much more we could be doing if we didn’t expend all of this time and effort and energy and just emotional labor on managing the emotions of others, right? I wonder how much more–I think of it as “If I spend all of this time thinking through what my words will sound like as a woman, as a black woman, as a black immigrant, as a queer woman, as a Muslim…” Like, all of these things. So I think about all of the time that I think that I spend expending time and energy on making sure that I present myself appropriately. If I just took some of that time back, do you know how much more time I would have? How much more energy I would have to expend on things like sleeping?


Zach: Straight up.


Ade: Right? Or…


Zach: Exercising. Drinking more water.


Ade: Drinking more water, which–by the way, if you’re listening with us right now go ahead and grab yourself a glass of water and just sip.


Zach: Take a sip.


Ade: Take a sip. Anyway, but I think the fundamental point remains that–and I’m not saying that everyone goes around all of the time carrying that weight, but it is a significant amount of time, and it’s almost not even a conscious thing that you do anymore, that you, as a woman, apologize for speaking in a meeting. Like, “Sorry, I just wanted to say that…” What are you apologizing for, sis? Just say what you have to say. Say it with your chest. But that’s part of this, like, training that you get as being the person on the wrong side of the power dynamics. In 2019, I would just like to say “That’s done.” That’s canceled. That is over.


Zach: That is canceled. We’re not doing that, and, like, we really want for people to come here and genuinely feel affirmed. Like, I’ll give a really quick story. So, like, when I was in Japan–first of all, Japan is amazing. I can’t wait to go back. Beautiful country. I was in Tokyo. It’s a beautiful city. And I’m walking just–like, I’m walking down the street, and I see, like, another young black man, and we kind of look at each other. I give him the nod, he gives me the nod, and I’m walking, and then, like, I kind of turn over my shoulder, and he’s, like, turning over his shoulder at the same time, and, like, he’s looking at me. Like, we’re looking at each other again, and we smiled, and I just kind of–I turned back around and I was just like, “Dang,” and, like, I ain’t gonna lie. Like, call it corny, call it cheesy or whatever. That made me feel really good. Like, I felt great, and I carried, like, this little awkward smile with me for, like, I don’t know, maybe like a minute, right? And there were no words exchanged. There was just a certain level of just–there was a certain level of power and just love that you felt from just being acknowledged and seeing someone in a space that you did not expect to see someone that looked like you look like you, and then they see–y’all see each other. And, like, Living Corporate, I think that whatever we can do to give–I would love for everybody to feel that feeling that I had that evening, for those, like, 65, 70 seconds. It was a great feeling.


Ade: That’s dope.


Zach: Yeah, straight up.


Ade: All right, let’s close this out.


Zach: Oh, yeah. Social media, social media. [laughs]


Ade: Yeah, so follow us on social media. [laughs]


Zach: [laughs] Okay. So on Instagram we’re @LivingCorporate, on Twitter we’re @LivingCorp_Pod, then we got–well, Living Corporate, if you just Google us, you’ll see us on LinkedIn. We’re everywhere, so make sure you check us out. We’re everywhere that y’all are, and I think that does it for us on the show. Remember, this is the kickoff. We have more content coming for you. [in accent] More fire for your head top. Was that a good accent? Or not really?


Ade: No, sir. Please never do that again. Be blessed.


Zach: [laughs]


Ade: No, be best. Don’t do that.


Zach: Be best. [laughs]


Ade: Whoo, all right.


Zach: All right. Well, this has been Zach.


Ade: This has been Ade.


Zach and Ade: Peace.

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